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Sorry, but "single payer systems" "cost so much less" because they externalize and obscure and obfuscate the costs in many different ways and the whole accounting of the system is totally inaccurate. You are also trying to compare an American system agains single payer systems that are made up of generally healthy people.

There is simply no easy way to determine how the single payer systems would deal with things like the huge black obesity rates and accompanying diabetes and dialysis and associated complications. And that doesn't even address the fact that, of course single payer systems "cost so much less" when the government sets the qualifications for care AND the government further obscures the true cost by heavily subsidizing it with tax money that is involuntarily taken from lip service citizens.

I find it rather baffling that ostensibly intelligent people simply cannot seem to wrap their minds around the fact that the true costs of single payer systems are not at all easily detectable. And that doesn't even go into the far greater issue of the authoritarian nature of single payer systems where you are forced to not only pay for something, but you don't even have control over it.