[PeachPlum]

While I have some sympathy for that position....

"Hello, can you have someone deliver this parcel for me. I'll pay you $5"

You're saying that if Amazon is asking that, they are responsible for the life of the person delivering it.

If I am asking Amazon that, therefore, does that make me responsible?

[arthur_pryor]

> You're saying that if Amazon is asking that, they are responsible for the life of the person delivering it.

> If I am asking Amazon that, therefore, does that make me responsible?

yes. definitely. not entirely, but for sure to some small degree.

[PeachPlum]

One suggestion is to include the actual price of delivery instead of "free delivery" (or discounted) into the displayed price.

Swift delivery is changing our expectations. If I knew it would take a week to come I would plan ahead, instead I can buy on impulse. Of course the real costs are being externalised, on the poor drivers but also on congested roads and pollution.

One of the consequences: https://www.londonair.org.uk/london/asp/annualmaps.asp

[TheCoelacanth]

The cutoff in my opinion is that if you know or reasonably should know about the behavior of the contractor then you are responsible. If Amazon is not aware of this behavior, then it is clearly willful ignorance.

[notatoad]

yes, of course. you're responsible on a smaller scale than amazon is, but ultimately you are responsible for the behaviour of the companies you patronize. and the behaviour of their contractors.

and that's not limited to whether you know about their poor behaviour or not. If you see something that's too good to be true, like "free same-day delivery", it's up to you to question whether that's really something you want to support.