[whathaschanged]

Sweden is 'fine' and yet has to raise the retirement age to cover all the drain on their societal services?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thelocal.se/20171214/what-s...

Please.

[maxxxxx]

With life expectation rising this seems a reasonable thing to do. How else do you want to deal with this?

[nradov]

That's fine for people who work desk jobs. But manual laborers tend to accumulate a variety of chronic injuries as they age. So increasing the retirement age means more of them will be forced to go out on disability pay instead of being able to retire with dignity.

[toomuchtodo]

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[whathaschanged]

Stop allowing a flood on migrants for no reason other than a feel good policy. Social safety nets exist for the populace that contributes over time, not for new fully grown males to suddenly appear with or without families expecting benefits they and their predecessors never contributed to. Down votes show HNs continued ignorance to actual world situations.

[novium]

But at the same time, the average life expectancy has also increased at a similar rate.

Edit: Adding to this the retirement age has not yet been raised, but is only proposed to be raised.

[SamReidHughes]

Retirement is a drain on social services.

[SapphireSun]

Retirement isn't a drain, it is a social service. Unless you are wealthy, you cannot retire without corporate or government social insurance plans like pensions, social security, paid off mortgages, medicare, etc. Without these plans, we go back to the Dickensian past where the poor and old slept on the streets or in workhouses until they died.

Some might even say retirement is the goal of life, defined however the individual wants to define it.