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I have a similar experience. I am still at university and not a native-German, but I am asking around, and for a non-IT German, 60K (gross) would be like super-rich money, and companies are not willing to give you that much. However, my experience is not based on the big cities, where I know 50-60K (gross) would be the starting rate for a Master's student.

I would be interested to hear other's opinion and experience, as I will join the workforce later this year.