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JonRB | 8 years ago

Doesn't this affect all of their CPUs going a long way back? And how do you recall embedded or laptop CPUs, which are often soldered in-place?

A recall would be great, but there's no way they'd be able to do it. Vehicle recalls are a bit different because they impact physical safety. Digital safety doesn't get the same priority.

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hollander|8 years ago

I don't think they would be able to produce all necessary CPUs. Replacing all current stock would create a huge problem. Replacing all sold cpus from the last two years would be a huge problem, even if (and I don't know how complicated or not it is) it would be quite simple to redesign all these chips, how long would it take to do that?

Then imagine all chips from 1995 to 2015, having to make them again, they don't have the machines anymore.

semi-extrinsic|8 years ago

Also vehicle recalls are usually done by fixing stuff next time the vehicle comes in for regularly scheduled service. How often does your computer get those?

vvanders|8 years ago

Depends on the recall, the GM ignition recall was done on an independent appt basis.

(besides you should not be taking your car to the dealer if you value your wallet)

QAPereo|8 years ago

How about they go into bankruptcy with most of the world’s computer users as their creditors? Maybe not, but it’s terrifying that you can avoid responsibility by fucking up on a larger scale than most.

lunorian|8 years ago

I'm sure Intel has a liability insurance policy that covers this type of thing.

taivare|8 years ago

Someone on Twitter had the last safe cpu that Intel made it was date stamped 92'-93' he was asking a Bitcoin for it!

em3rgent0rdr|8 years ago

even if it affects all speculative CPUs, if this happened in the car world, all the cars would be recalled. Not saying that is practical in computer world...just continuing with the analogy.

Spectre/Meltdown is a wakeup call for many things, one of them probably being for computer manufacturers to not solder the CPU to the Motherboard and for the x86 world to stick with a standard socket, to facilitate replacing parts.

morganvachon|8 years ago

> "Spectre/Meltdown is a wakeup call for many things, one of them probably being for computer manufacturers to not solder the CPU to the Motherboard"

Good luck with that. A large portion of affected CPUs/SoCs are in mobile devices and ultrabooks. Socketed chips simply won't fly in those kinds of devices.

occams_chainsaw|8 years ago

That's why using non-OEM parts in your car voids the warranty.