[HammerJack]

I think it depends which side of the fence you were on before we passed amendment 64. CO has always been a purple state, I get the feeling you consider yourself red/conservative/etc and are noticing the red:blue ratio swing against you.

I cannot say I share your concerns for a number of reasons. Locally, as in at the city level, we fight the old guard regularly just to pass enough taxes to keep our infrastructure from crumbling entirely. We have to fight the old guard just to have enough taxes to keep the street lights on in the summer, to put our police officers in cars newer than a decade old.

The new folks, us young folks, don't have a problem with a lot of these, we see the value in our police officers having modern vehicles, in our streets and storm water systems being maintained (and avoiding costly lawsuits in the latter case), in the value for my community safety and other people's families to have lights on in neighborhood past 6 PM during the summer for Pete's sake. We're the ones at the city hall meetings fighting grandma, and her racism, and her NIMBYism, and her staunch refusal to pay for any of the public services she takes advantage of. So I struggle to see what politics have been changed for the worse.

Oh, Oh, and after a few record breaking years for wild fires, guess if it was the old guard (who wants to bust up the state forests and lands for fracking) or the new guard (who are generally more conservationist) who voted we shouldn't allocate more budget to fire fighting@. Gosh, that certainly will not bite us after a dry winter when the US forest service predicted an even worst wild fire season this year. Oh no how the budget will suffer and the old guard will make it seem like this was completely unavoidable and unpredictable. @edit: at the state level

I take a personal ire with your baseless comment since I live in what's historically been known as the hate capital of the west; located right here in friendly Colorado. So, in my opinion, if the KKK and some of these rather bigoted church congregations have their ideals and their politics dragged out into the light of society and can't survive it good riddance.

So please, please tell me what politics the Californians (and somehow I hear; Elite West Coast Liberals in there, if not Libruls) have brought us that made our state oh so terrible over these past few years.

[junkcollector]

It's probably the politics that led to the roughly 50% rise in cost of living across the state in the last decade.

There is little comfort to be had when you're losing your home and car because someone tells you that at least the homeless shelters and public transit are much better now.

They hate you, because they see you as a giant economic jackboot stepping on the face of the poor forever.

[dsfyu404ed]

If it was so terrible before people like you showed up then why did you chose to show up here?

You see yourself the same way 16th century missionaries saw themselves, you think you're civilizing the barbarians but you're destroying someone else's way of life.

You are conflating high taxes and high government involvement in everyday life with a high quality of life and that's simply not the case. It might have been the case where you came from but it's not the case where you went.

They might not be the greatest at articulating it but the people who disagree with you are disagreeing with you because they have a fundamentally different view of the responsibility of government and the individual to each other (on the local level or otherwise).

You need to learn to think in terms of value. Does X increase quality of life enough per dollar to be worth it. If you don't learn to think about value you'll eventually run out of other people's money.