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adamio | 8 years ago

There's claims the plastic ban bag in San Diego led to a Hepatitis outbreak https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2017/sep/08/stringers-pl...

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maym86|8 years ago

This is a separate problem caused by not providing homeless people access to toilets. Seems obvious that the solution is more public restrooms not more plastic bags.

kodablah|8 years ago

> Seems obvious that the solution is more public restrooms

While I agree, it's like saying wrt plastic bags in the ocean, "Seems obvious that the solution is less littering" or "Seems obvious the solution is biodegradable bags" etc, etc. It is just so much easier for people to change laws and affect everyone than target the specific problem.

greeneggs|8 years ago

Two economists have claimed that the ban in San Francisco led to an increase in food-borne diseases. The proposed mechanism is that people don't wash their reusable bags, and dangerous bacteria gets onto them. It isn't clear to me how strong the evidence for this is.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/02/16/is-sa...

pishpash|8 years ago

This is true, it's very unsanitary if you put unpackaged goods in there or get leaks.

Lots of stores also don't ask and give you a bag at whatever the locale's imposed fee is which they keep it, so there is an incentive to do this.

At the end of the day, the externality should not be captured by the store, but should be refunded back to the user with even distribution.

gnicholas|8 years ago

I’ve seen this also and have not seen any evidence to the contrary. Considering how damning this study is to plastic bag bans, I’m guessing this means there aren’t any studies that rebut these findings.

emiliobumachar|8 years ago

Very informative piece. Key excerpts:

"Homeless people learned long ago that pooping in plastic-bag-lined containers meant you could wrap the session up and dispose of all the stuff without touching it, he said in a long email. So when it got harder to get the bags after the ban went into effect late last year, it became harder to find the bags and people who were able to keep things clean had to work a lot harder."

"Hepatitis A is spread by contact with feces or blood of an infected person. It can be trace amounts and it can be months old"

skrause|8 years ago

Well, other developed countries don't have so many homeless people, so that should be less of a problem there.

darkstar999|8 years ago

If that's true, it would still be a lot less plastic if we gave free access to the homeless population.

maym86|8 years ago

Or just access to toilets. It's not like they want to poop in bags.