[aluhut]

You did not have to be active in Occupy or any of the other groups to hear the term. Hell, my mother knows is and won't connect anything good with it. The main reason is what happened 2008 and for those who cared a little bit: deregulation. People who take neoliberalism are not necessary anti free market. Those would be the extremists again.

> They may not themselves want to adopt the label (particularly in front of their own customers, who bring their own baggage associated with it), but they'll be sympathetic to the ideas.

So you agree that there was no rehabilitation then?

I still don't understand why you wouldn't just come up with a new term. Is this bad marketing knowledge or intentional?

[nostrademons]

FWIW, my mother certainly doesn't know what it is, and I just asked my wife and she has no idea. I'd heard the term in the rehabilitated, Sam Bowman sense, but had to go look up the Wikipedia page to see what the controversy was about. I don't particularly identify with any of the labels of mainstream (is there such a thing anymore?) political movements.

It's a really common mistake to assume that the people you hang around with are representative of all people. The U.S. (let alone the world) is a really big place, and we don't all read the same media anymore.

[aluhut]

Alright, let's say here in Europe...although that doesn't make you and your wife look quite good here. I guess this is where the Europe vs. US memes grow. I mean, do you watch news? How could you have missed what were the poster words back then?

However,

> They may not themselves want to adopt the label (particularly in front of their own customers, who bring their own baggage associated with it), but they'll be sympathetic to the ideas.

still stands here. Just from a quick lookup on wikipedia, you got to this statement. So if this is even obvious to you, we don't really have to talk about any kind of rehabilitation. The real issue would be some terribly bad informed people.

[miracle2k]

The term is used in Germany as a battle cry against the enemies of social market democracy, perceived or real.

I don't think it's a thing in the US.

[aluhut]

Occupy came from the US the crash happened there first. But yes, as we see above, there are people who probably don't watch news or watch selective news? I don't know. It's weird.

Good we have the Öffentlich Rechtlicher Rundfunk I guess ;)