[hahainternet]

> I was willing to tolerate Ledger's issues here ... if they fixed them

> Unfortunately, the Ledger team appear to be asshats, so there's every reason to fear using them in the future, even if they've fixed this specific issue

Your first two lines completely contradict each other.

The Nano S is #3 in your list.

[rdl]

The problem wasn't the breach, it was their messaging around the breach. I accept that most products have bugs, even security-critical bugs in security products (although this one was a bit extreme to tolerate...).

The Nano S isn't really an HSM-containing-wallet. It (and the Trezor) are somewhere between a smartcard containing just the keys and an HSM. There's "trusted" display and input, but not the whole wallet. The Nano S also does have an element of "trust us" vs. an easily verifiable design.