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If You’ve Met Aliens While on DMT, These Scientists Would Like to Hear from You

73 points| fraqed | 8 years ago |motherboard.vice.com | reply

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[+] kreutz|8 years ago|reply
The book A Demon Haunted World: Science as a candle in the dark by Carl Sagan goes in depth as to the origin of peoples propensity to believe that they have indeed encountered such creatures. I would highly recommend reading it.
[+] benbreen|8 years ago|reply
I love Carl Sagan and especially love when he branched out into topics like this. But I also wonder if he ended up being on the right track - does anyone happen to know if contemporary research backs up many of his speculations about human evolution in books like Dragons of Eden or Demon-Haunted World?
[+] OrganicMSG|8 years ago|reply
I saw them a few days after taking DMT. I was sitting on a sofa, reality paused, some tube-limbed harlequins stepped out sideways into it, cut a few things up, looked inside them then put them back together, then they fucked off and reality restarted.
[+] OnMyPhone|8 years ago|reply
That's what my buddy said about them too. He only saw them when he blasted off, but could feel them around for a while after.

Definitely on my todo list.

[+] nul_byte|8 years ago|reply
I have seen them doing an ultra marathon on the second night of no sleep. It's weird how you brain fills so much detail in. The creatures I could see were like gollum from LoTR but with reptilian skin..they were either smoking pipes or playing elaborate music on instruments I have never seen before..
[+] ZeroGravitas|8 years ago|reply
The non-fiction book "Why people believe weird things" begins with the author's recounting of his own meeting with aliens, during a coast-to-coast cycle race where he had gone without sleep.

In reality it was his crew trying to get him off his bike before he fell asleep and fell off

[+] ghostbrainalpha|8 years ago|reply
Which Ultra Marathon?

Did you enjoy that experience, or did you take it as a sign you are pushing your body to an extreme that may be unhealthy in ways we don't understand?

[+] herbst|8 years ago|reply
I've done DMT quite a few times and I can totally see why religious people make this a religious experience. Or as in this case use aliens or other 'mythical' creatures instead of God figures.

There is this very strong feeling of being connected to more and just being able to get a short glance to a different world that is always there but hidden from you.

Most people will explain it like this, but everybody also ads 'graphics' or concepts based on their own believes in order to even comprehend the experience.

I love DMT but I also highly believe that we are seeing some kind of natural process in our brains here and not some kind of deeper connection.

In other news I saw genesha dancing for me on a rainbow of thousands of never seen colors and I had a fox helping me getting back from something I can only describe as lost in my own head. Dmt is strange but beautiful

[+] stupidcar|8 years ago|reply
If I had to hypothesize, I'd say that most hallucinogens generally stimulate lower-levels of the neocortex's sensory perception hierarchy, resulting in a distorted and more vivid experience of basic things like colors, textures, etc. But DMT is somehow particularly able to stimulate a higher-level representation that corresponds with the perception of a fellow intelligent creature. This is combined semi-randomly with one or more high-level representation of animals and objects to create the perception of intelligent "aliens" with a bizarre form.
[+] 0xdeadbeefbabe|8 years ago|reply
What is wrong with hypothesizing that invisible beings around us can only be seen under certain circumstances?
[+] arx1422|8 years ago|reply
Every few years I get stuck for a few moments in the state between sleep and waking up. Always manifested the same way. In the middle of a dream environment a gateway with a totally alien, totally inexplicable intelligence would appear. I'd be paralyzed by it for a few seconds. As I got older a realized the terrifying alien world/intelligence was waking consciousness intruding into the dream state. Always interesting after I wake but true Lovecraftian horror as it happens.
[+] pietroglyph|8 years ago|reply
It seems like an anonymous internet survey won't solicit very high quality data... I suppose even a rough idea of how common these experiences are is a start.
[+] pstuart|8 years ago|reply
They weren't aliens, they were Persian elves.
[+] benbreen|8 years ago|reply
Can you elaborate? I see to be one of those rare people who is genuinely fascinated by peoples' DMT experiences (and dreams!).

Speaking personally, I've done DMT twice but never at the doses necessary to break through. I've experienced ego death from psilocybin but it seems as if the DMT experience is different in terms of the vividness and visual complexity.