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I think most hackers are concerned with public safety. The problem is subgroups of hackers differ on how to achieve it. Some hackers want to remove the rights of people not involved in a crime (like, me) to defend themselves and protect their families (interestingly, they also complain of clear plastic backpacks for kids in school, which I agree is equally ineffective in stopping crime). Other hackers want to preserve the right to defend themselves and their families from crime.

Therefore the debate is not about hacking. It’s about a different view of the world.

Therefore, there are other forums better suited for the debate, which really has nothing to do with hacking (with some exceptions).