[joshio]

Come on, what kind of utopia are you living in?

Apple's core business is not environment protection, it's development of technology and applications for that tech.

That they're using the vehicle that is Apple to push for green energy is remarkable, putting pressure on the other giants. But this kind of expectation, that they should move away from the Mecka of tech devs. in order to push the envelope further would only lessen the net impact on their environmental work..

[ghfbjdhhv]

It would help if they just moved near a Caltrain station.

See: what Google is doing in SJ.

[rgovostes]

There are or were offices at Sunnyvale Caltrain station. They also have shuttles that regularly service Mountain View, Sunnyvale, and Diridon stations; the ride should only be 10-15 minutes. However, I do not think Caltrain has the capacity for tens of thousands of new commuters.

[joshio]

I'm not sure how frequent these stations are but from the overview of the size of the new Apple campus, it's not too easy finding a lot large enough to just drop it down where it's convenient. Not accounting for zoning laws etc.

[realusername]

> Come on, what kind of utopia are you living in?

In the past you know, big industrial companies built large-scale residential areas for workers, it's not an utopia.

[joshio]

That was not the point I was trying to make, some of the best developers in the world live in the San Jose area.

To build a new campus in the middle of nowhere and build housing there would never be a valid solution.

Maybe for a second campus, like they're planning. But that one is rumoured to be put in Austin where, you guessed it, the density of a skilled workforce is high.

[apsec112]

There's nothing "remarkable" about a company, especially a Bay Area-based consumer electronics company, saying they like green energy. Everyone says they like green energy, even the oil companies (https://www.total.com/en/commitment/environmental-issues-cha...). What would be "remarkable" is if they made significant changes to how they do business to, at least, avoid making the problem worse, and they are not doing that.

[rgovostes]

Maybe some day we will see a headline like, "Apple now globally powered by 100 percent renewable energy". Some day.

[joshio]

You don't seem to get it, they do not just say that "they like" green energy - the link tells us that they switched over to 100% renewable energy. Even in China and India!

What I'm saying is that it's due to their business success that they can afford to take this investment. The success that made it possible can't just be toyed around with to suit every idealist's short sighted agenda of "Do more!".