Quick take feedback - I click a link for “Value My Funnel” @ valuemyfunnel.com. Instead, I’m redirected to rightmessage.com, instantly feels scammy. Next I expect some simple funnel calc tool followed by a pitch for some service. Instead, I’m greeted with a ton of text that I don’t want to read and has nothing to do with valuing my funnel. I immediately close the window. Then I felt generous to a show hn post so I decided to click through once and see what happens. I get an obvious lead gen form that has nothing to do with valuing my funnel. Now I’m done with rightmessage forever.
Trying to disguise bad faith marketing hacks like this as show hn type content hurts your business.
Forgive me, but I'm not sure what we're doing that's disingenuous?
If you clicked through after the initial welcome page (that just overviews the tool) that's not a lead gen form. That's exactly what the tool advertises: a questionnaire for deconstructing your funnel value.
In fact, there's zero lead gen until the end – and that's entirely optional. There's no "put in your email address to get your numbers!" – we display it all anonymously. If you put in your email address, we send you an email course.
I'm not sure if you saw the same thing we built, or if I'm misreading your comment?
Thank you for your feedback, I can understand and appreciate your perspective. Truly, it's fair.
To your first point: We built this on top of our app so we could use the data to superimpose conversion metrics. Using a direct URL is much easier to communicate than a subdomain or URL with slug. Your point is noted though. We don't want that to be the initial reaction.
We'll relook at the copy and see if we can minimize anything that's unnecessary. No need to add friction.
We built this tool to be free to use, without any requirement of signing in or submitting your email. We haven't gated the results, only added additional value if interested.
I'm sorry for it leaving you with a bad impression. We are a for-profit business, but that shouldn't minimize the value that the tool delivers — for free.
Just launched a simple tool that helps you understand the worth of your marketing funnel, down to a single site visitor. Would love any comments or feedback.
Full disclosure: we launched on ProductHunt today as well.
Your optimization ideas are a vertical scrollbar, which hides them off of the screen to maintain tile size. I would attempt to allude to the fact there are more pieces of hidden data if possible, or ideally refactor the design paradigm completely, hiding data is usually a pattern worth avoiding, especially when it's so valuable as yours. Well done on the aesthetic overall quite well done!
[+] [-] rajacombinator|8 years ago|reply
Trying to disguise bad faith marketing hacks like this as show hn type content hurts your business.
[+] [-] bdunn|8 years ago|reply
If you clicked through after the initial welcome page (that just overviews the tool) that's not a lead gen form. That's exactly what the tool advertises: a questionnaire for deconstructing your funnel value.
In fact, there's zero lead gen until the end – and that's entirely optional. There's no "put in your email address to get your numbers!" – we display it all anonymously. If you put in your email address, we send you an email course.
I'm not sure if you saw the same thing we built, or if I'm misreading your comment?
[+] [-] danaseverson|8 years ago|reply
To your first point: We built this on top of our app so we could use the data to superimpose conversion metrics. Using a direct URL is much easier to communicate than a subdomain or URL with slug. Your point is noted though. We don't want that to be the initial reaction.
We'll relook at the copy and see if we can minimize anything that's unnecessary. No need to add friction.
We built this tool to be free to use, without any requirement of signing in or submitting your email. We haven't gated the results, only added additional value if interested.
I'm sorry for it leaving you with a bad impression. We are a for-profit business, but that shouldn't minimize the value that the tool delivers — for free.
[+] [-] wlaurance|8 years ago|reply
One thing I'd like is a way to share the final link where I see the projection and ideas
[+] [-] danaseverson|8 years ago|reply
[+] [-] danaseverson|8 years ago|reply
Full disclosure: we launched on ProductHunt today as well.
[+] [-] Gabriel_Martin|8 years ago|reply
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