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Chris, Nat and Satya's Calldeck Regarding Microsoft and GitHub

131 points| ArmandGrillet | 7 years ago |view.officeapps.live.com | reply

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[+] Shank|7 years ago|reply
Slide 12:

> GitHub will retain its developer-first ethos, operate independently and remain an open platform

> Nat Friedman will become the CEO of GitHub

As far as acquisition news goes, this is pretty good news. I think the one thing I was hoping for was autonomous operation from GitHub, and we're getting that. Nat created Xamarin & by extension a large swathe of the Mono project -- which means that his heart is certainly aligned in the right spot. He sounds like an excellent CEO grab, and it wouldn't surprise me if this is more of the deal than it's being portrayed as. GitHub has needed a CEO for a while, and Nat at the helm is a great person for that.

I'm optimistic that, as long as GitHub remains an independent business unit (ala Heroku at Salesforce), then it'll actually be a good thing. Let's hope it stays that way.

[+] jacquesm|7 years ago|reply
If there is one thing that I've learned from watching tech acquisitions up close for way too many years then it is that you should not put too much stock into words spoke by execs of companies around or immediately after an acquisition.
[+] ckastner|7 years ago|reply
Slide 10: Microsoft <hearts> Open Source.

It's really amazing how much Microsoft has changed (to the positive) since Ballmer stepped down as CEO.

[+] ekianjo|7 years ago|reply
> Slide 10: Microsoft <hearts> Open Source.

you do realize that's just PR talk right? Most of their money-making products and services are far from being open source, so let's tone down the grandiloquent claims a little.

[+] frou_dh|7 years ago|reply
I've read countless positive comments about "new Microsoft" on HN/Reddit/etc for multiple years at this point.

Even if it's true, I humbly ask that we move beyond the fawning.

[+] some_account|7 years ago|reply
Comments like these leave me no hope for the future. Even with a history like Microsofts, people are quick to forgive instead of learning from mistakes.

I didn't even think PR works on people but it does and it's sad to see it.

[+] zwischenzug|7 years ago|reply
Lock-in is now sought at the cloud layer.
[+] shmerl|7 years ago|reply
If they changed so much, let them reverse their claim that APIs are copyrightable, stop patent shakedowns (like on Android and etc.) and start supporting major FOSS cross platform initiatives like Vulkan. Until then I'll retain my skepticism about how much they have really changed.
[+] blauditore|7 years ago|reply
Huh, wasn't it Ballmer who coined the famous "developers, developers, developers"?
[+] GuB-42|7 years ago|reply
They haven't changed to the positive, they have switched to other evils. They took Google's evil (all that spying), and a bit of Apple's evil (disposable hardware, Windows S walled garden).
[+] baybal2|7 years ago|reply
>Slide 10: Microsoft <hearts> Open Source.

>It's really amazing how much Microsoft has changed (to the positive) since Ballmer stepped down as CEO.

Protip: this is a lie

[+] cyxxon|7 years ago|reply
Also interesting: the laptop in the slides is a MacBook, not a laptop running Windows. It might look like a generic aluminium device, but see the window decorations...
[+] manigandham|7 years ago|reply
Plenty of people in Microsoft use open-source tech running on Apple hardware. It's not rare or unexpected anymore in this current decade.
[+] ConfusedDog|7 years ago|reply
Pardon my ignorance. What is a calldeck? I couldn't find a good result on Google. It is like a sales deck?
[+] mrleiter|7 years ago|reply
If a company has an investor call, they sometimes supply the investors with a deck to follow the call - a calldeck.
[+] JakeWesorick|7 years ago|reply
slides for a meeting where everyone is talking on the phone
[+] dblooman|7 years ago|reply
Guess Atom is getting the axe then
[+] koolba|7 years ago|reply
Atom has been leagues behind VS Code for a quite a while. Even with an acquisition I don’t see it ever winning that fight. Too much baggage in the underlying architecture.
[+] anamoulous|7 years ago|reply
Yup, Microsoft bought Github for 7.5B to shoot Atom into the sun.
[+] thelastidiot|7 years ago|reply
It just benefits large companies, not small ones. Now Microsoft is able to slam a deal with Github in the offer (which every company is using) to sell Azure. Brilliant!
[+] ksec|7 years ago|reply
My thoughts also, something to dethrone AWS. Azure is actually doing surprisingly well in Big Enterprise. But in the seas of Small Medium Coprs and Dev houses they have little to Zero penetration.
[+] cakes|7 years ago|reply
I wonder if this is the actual final death of TFS (Server) at this point as they could now move Github into that offering space for enterprises
[+] sharathr|7 years ago|reply
In an effort to show commitment to existing developer communities, all images of computers in the slide-deck have been changed to Apple Macs...lol
[+] jacquesm|7 years ago|reply
The degree of gullibility in these threads is unexpected. You'd think the hacker community would be vaccinated against PR by now but it seems to work just fine.

Next up: "Our incredible journey".

When it all comes crashing down, don't say you weren't warned.

[+] pshc|7 years ago|reply
If you release a hip IDE with a free tier and open source half of a booby trapped ecosystem, all is forgiven (?)
[+] foobarbazetc|7 years ago|reply
Yup. The level of koolaid drinking going on here is insane.

This is not a good thing in any way. None.

If it saved GitHub from bankruptcy or something then fine, but acquisitions like this rarely work out.

[+] jblow|7 years ago|reply
I don’t get it either.
[+] walterbell|7 years ago|reply
Imagine Microsoft implementing AI “Code ID” for screening Github code uploads for intellectual property violations, if this becomes EU law in 2020, https://blog.github.com/2018-03-14-eu-proposal-upload-filter...

  $ git push ...
  remote: Resolving deltas: 100% (2/2), completed with 2 local objects.
  remote: error: GH013: Your push could infringe someone's copyright.
  remote: If you believe this is a false positive (e.g., it's yours, open
  remote: source, not copyrightable, subject to exceptions) contact us:
  remote: https://github.com/contact
  remote: We're sorry for interrupting your work, but automated copyright
  remote: filters are mandated by the EU's Article 13.
  To github.com/vollmera/atom.git
 ! [remote rejected] patch-1 -> patch-1 (push declined due to article 13 filters)
[+] falcon620|7 years ago|reply
The thought that Satya Nadella, who joined Microsoft in 1992 and then steadily climbed his way to the top would be a better, more moral person than the "old guard" is kind of funny.

He's just younger and less out of touch than Gates (and particularly Balmer).

[+] hatred|7 years ago|reply
What was Github's current valuation? It seems that the last round valued them at $2b in 2015. Around ~3x multiple on the last round (~7.5b$). Hopefully, the employees are all happy!
[+] skierscott|7 years ago|reply
On iOS this isn’t functional. I can’t advance past the first slide.
[+] inetknght|7 years ago|reply
Can't view with javascript disabled. !@#$ that.
[+] aerovistae|7 years ago|reply
Not to be rude, but honestly can you view anything with JavaScript disabled anymore? I don’t exactly blame the website.
[+] dingo_bat|7 years ago|reply
It'd be a little hard to show a PPT without some js viewer.
[+] bo1024|7 years ago|reply
I generally agree with you. But just so you know, in this case if you enable a few scripts, a download button appears and you can read the file in libreoffice or whatever you use.
[+] developerdanny|7 years ago|reply
How can you expect a webapp to work with javascript disabled?
[+] falcon620|7 years ago|reply
Wow, that looks like crap on a retina/hidpi screen.
[+] gojomo|7 years ago|reply
Where’s the slide for “Totally clobbers coverage of any Apple announcements from WWDC today”?