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ICE Whistleblower interview with CBS interrupted by government agents

125 points| neo4sure | 7 years ago |cbsnews.com | reply

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[+] alexandercrohde|7 years ago|reply
tl; dr:

1. ICE [Immigration Control] planned to raid Oakland for illegal immigrants.

2. Somehow, Oakland's mayor found out and warned the community (Oakland, SF, and California are very pro-immigrant). This obviously gave opportunity for some immigrants to elude the raid.

3. Feeling undermined, Jeff sessions claimed that "ICE failed to make 800 arrests" because of the mayor's statement.

4. James Schwab, who this article is about, identifies that as an outright lie, because "We ended up arresting 232, which is 16 percent higher than our highest estimates." Thus the 800 figure would be an outright fabrication. He was asked not to contradict this lie, and morally objected, resigned, and blew the moral whistle on the whole situation.

5. In the middle of the CBS interview, at his house, some very intimidating DHS officers came by, unannounced, who seemed to suggest that Schwab had leaked the information to Oakland's mayor (which he cooly dismisses is entirely false and spurious).

6. The officers appear retreat once they realize they are on camera.

[+] gcbw2|7 years ago|reply
aren't arrest quotas for law enforcement illegal in most countries?
[+] onemoresoop|7 years ago|reply
Lies, deception, intimidation, what's next? Is this America of the 21st century?
[+] dsfyu404ed|7 years ago|reply
Intimidation tactics like this is how these organizations operate in situations like this. It's been this way for a long time. Read up on the CIA and FBI getting in each other's way in the Hoover era. They pulled all sorts of crap like this. It's not every former administration has been standing in the way of behavior like this and now suddenly the floodgates are open and the departments in the executive branch feel empowered to oppress and intimidate anyone they see as a threat, they've been doing it all along. Maybe they're less subtle now, I dunno.

It's only now that we have a POTUS that everyone hates that people are taking notice how foul the rest of the executive branch really is.

Edit: I know that lunch hour in CA is exactly the wrong time to post something like this but please actually try and refute something I'm saying instead of mashing the downvote button like you're on Reddit. We're supposed to be able to have adult discussion around here.

[+] CodeTheInternet|7 years ago|reply
> Before the surprise visit, Schwab told Yuccas that both the Obama and Trump White Houses asked him to "spin" information.

If they would talk about how "both sides of the aisle" were doing this, it would make it non-partisan, more news outlets would discuss it, and maybe there would be actions taken.

[+] yodon|7 years ago|reply
> If they would talk about how "both sides of the aisle" were doing this, it would make it non-partisan

He told the reporter that never before had he been asked to actually lie.

There is a difference between truthful statements that deflect attention from one place to another and outright lies (be they lies of omission or commission), and it would be a counterfactual interpretation of the interview to report he said both sides of the aisle asked him to lie. They didn’t. That’s why he resigned, because this was something new and different and serious.

[edit to add the quotation for context]

[+] John_KZ|7 years ago|reply
Was he send to the Gulag or not?
[+] llukas|7 years ago|reply
In US they put you on a no fly list and set credit score to 0.