[web-cowboy]

Wise words for any project or product that starts in academia but stays there for too long (building for papers and PhDs rather than real customers). Brave to deliver such a cutting critique to this audience too.

As a potential newcomer to Scala, many of these points ring true. Hopefully the community takes a good hard look at itself to see what it can improve.

With some time off this past week I started hunting for things I should be learning. After doing some research on Scala's popularity and trending I came to may of the same conclusions John does.

[lptk]

> building for papers and PhDs rather than real customers

> the community takes a good hard look at itself to see what it can improve

This has already been happening for a while. FYI, the Scala center is entirely dedicated to improving Scala usage and its tooling, which JDG somehow forgets to mention (along with many other positive things happening in the community).

In fact, it turned out in discussions on reddit that JDG is kind of living in his own bubble, not really aware of a lot of things happening outside of it, and thinks he is the only one to see some problems that have in fact been worked on for years. For example, tooling with the Scala center, and the Scala2/Scala3 transition which has been a _central_ consideration in the design and implementation of Dotty since the inception of the project!