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Unfortunately, Java is a bit of an archival nightmare. Java Applets can do pretty much anything they want, they aren't consistent in that sense. Unlike Flash you can't just run them offline in a Projector, and the code structure of an applet is different from that of a normal Java app. This is on top of being unable to play Java games without getting a tonne of (well deserved) security warnings (unless you want to pay Oracle $100 per month for a signature.) Java in the browser was just a bad idea all around.

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pharrington|7 years ago

I understand that the implementation of Java in the browser was bad, but why do you think the idea of Java in the browser was bad?

tomysshadow|7 years ago

Because it gives the Java programmer too much power in an environment that should be safe. For example there are applets like AppEmbed that can run an EXE in the browser. That's just insane. Flash and Shockwave in contrast are limited in that sense, you are constrained to doing what you are able to accomplish with ActionScript or Lingo (or at least, that is intended to be the case.) Flash is insecure because it's buggy, Java is insecure because it's buggy AND because it's intended to work in ways you'd think are obviously insecure!

genericid|7 years ago

Unfortunately Javascript-infested websites are a bit of an archival nightmare. Javascript can do pretty much anything it wants, it isn't consistent in that sense. You can't run them offline. Javascript in the browser is just a bad idea all around.

egeozcan|7 years ago

You can generally "Save As..." and they tend to work just fine. Like any code which has network access, they can be dependent on various resources. I sometimes run a downloaded file through an insecure chrome instance (--disable-web-security and a unique --user-data-dir) with a catch-all service-worker. That'd probably not work with applets as they make their requests outside the browser AFAIK.

Also the security sandbox of Javascript is one of the best, if not the best. So it cannot do anything it wants.

tomysshadow|7 years ago

I don't see how this contradicts my point at all. This project is about saving Flash games, not Javascript.