The reason you are being downvoted is that it is also not ok to harass women outside of a nightclub.. or in a nightclub.. or anywhere fucking else.
If they are baiting, well perhaps this a pathological response to constant lifelong harassment. Perhaps not being harassed for sex from the time they are pre-pubescent will actually change the dynamic. If people get off on the give and take of sexually threatening roleplay in a public setting, perhaps they need to check themselves before worrying if that 'right' will be taken away.
Law definitely does not have to be clear (show me a law that is black and white). Once again, the important thing to remember here, and the issue men seem to have a problem with, is that this kind of change does indeed shift the power dynamic. Suck it up, sweetheart!
Oh please stop it with the ridiculous baiting argument, especially such nonsense as "REAL possible outcome of instituting oppressive laws like this"! Perhaps stealing cars might be legal, otherwise car owners might bait by driving their cars around -- it's a REAL possible outcome! Shoplifting should be legal too -- it's a REAL possible outcome that shops might bait us by having all those things on their shelves!
All of us have been in a situation that we wanted something from a shop but couldn't have it because we couldn't afford it or for other reason -- how many has taken it anyway? And furthermore, how many of those who have did expect to be pardoned because they were "baited"?
So you’re obviously speaking from a position of no experience, and don’t understand legislation (laws are far from black and white, one of the reasons why a court system exists), and have gone as far as to present a strawman / slippery slope argument.
I think the elephant in the room here is that this behaviour is probably not coming mainly from resident French, but rather, being kind, those that France needs to work harder to introduce to common standards of behaviour in France. An extreme leftist position might argue this law is an evil right wing law that hampers different cultures that are equally as valid as mainstream French culture.
cam_l|7 years ago
If they are baiting, well perhaps this a pathological response to constant lifelong harassment. Perhaps not being harassed for sex from the time they are pre-pubescent will actually change the dynamic. If people get off on the give and take of sexually threatening roleplay in a public setting, perhaps they need to check themselves before worrying if that 'right' will be taken away.
Law definitely does not have to be clear (show me a law that is black and white). Once again, the important thing to remember here, and the issue men seem to have a problem with, is that this kind of change does indeed shift the power dynamic. Suck it up, sweetheart!
WalterSear|7 years ago
Assholery knows no gender. Don't give it one and pretend you are debating in fair faith.
BerislavLopac|7 years ago
All of us have been in a situation that we wanted something from a shop but couldn't have it because we couldn't afford it or for other reason -- how many has taken it anyway? And furthermore, how many of those who have did expect to be pardoned because they were "baited"?
Just stop it and grow up. Please.
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