Oracle to charge for Java from Jan 2019

[cwyers]

> Oracle have announced that, “after January 2019”, Java SE 8 public updates will not be available for “business, commercial or production use” without a commercial license.

This is blogspam and FUD. Java SE 8 will be past EOL at that point. Oracle has announced no intent to charge for updates to Java SE 11, which should be the current release, at that point.

[Annatar]

What a shame. Just when I got my hopes up.

[sudhirj]

Isn't this heavily misleading? This still seems like the charges for continuing to use old versions of Java <= 8. The article doesn't confirm or deny that staying on the latest version remains free.

[theoctopus]

This is some _incredible_ clickbait. The latest JRE and JDK will continue to be free. What Oracle are charging for is continued Java 8 support.

[Nursie]

OK, but from what I can tell this isn't a fee for using java in a commercial setting, it's a fee for access to continued support/patching of Java 8.

Java 9 is out. Java 10 is out. I can see why oracle might want to cut down their support costs and retire their older versions more quickly.

However this will blow up in their faces if a lot of software gets exploited due to unpatched vulnerabilities.

[jarym]

I don’t see anything wrong with charging commercial users for support of an old product.

I’m no fan of Oracle of their sales practices but the title is very misleading by omission

[BjoernKW]

That headline’s sensationalist and misleading. They’re going to charge for continued JDK 8 updates.

JDK (and JRE) 11 will be the latest version by then. Only companies which need or want to stay on the previous version will have to pay.

[_Codemonkeyism]

Poor journalism.

1. It's about EOL SE 8

2. "software running Java SE 8" - the article needs to be clear about Oracle Java, and Open JDK and others like Azul

[yetihehe]

Oracle will charge for support of Java 8, not for all Java versions.

[ShardPhoenix]

Note: this applies to new updates to Java 8, as a result of the upcoming Java 11 taking over as the LTS version. Oracle is not charging for Java in general.

As a result the headline and article come across as a bit FUDdy to me.

[dynjo]

Cached version https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:VvTCsb...

[dvfjsdhgfv]

Even though the clickbait title is false, I wouldn't be surprised if Oracle at some point decided it makes sense to kill Java by "monetizing" current releases it in this way.

[RickJWagner]

This changes things. For one, Red Hat is now offering OpenJDK support for Windows.

[vpribish]

right from the weasel's mouth: https://java.com/en/download/release_notice.jsp

[bArray]

I'm not sure what the big deal is, they are charging for older version support. Not only this, I've been using and would recommend people switch to openjdk.

[DonHopkins]

After all those years of endlessly arguing back and forth about which programming language is the best, the poor Java evangelists have had the blocks knocked out from underneath them, because now you can instantly counter any number of technical pro-Java arguments and win the argument in one word, by simply be saying the name "Oracle", and sadly shaking your head in pity.

[repsilat]

And what a turnaround for the CLR. People used to say, "Sure, C# is a better Java, but Microsoft and closed-source etc..." Or, "Sure F# looks cool, pity about..."

Microsoft's reputation isn't what Sun's was, but it's miles better than it was under Ballmer and light-years ahead of Oracle's. Looks like the bulk of .NET code is released under permissive licenses, too (?)

I don't know how much "hacker goodwill" buys you when you make old-people tech, but Java has definitely lost ground to its main competitor. Maybe their recent uptick in language development velocity will help things.

[watt]

No. Fully open source, community supported OpenJDK will the best thing that happened to Java. https://adoptopenjdk.net/

[singularity2001]

blogspam / FUD or not, Kotlin is the beautiful future

[dmix]

What is a "named user plus"?