[ebbv]

Nearly wiping out the bison was not a prerequisite to the US becoming self sufficient. Nor is destroying their natural areas a prerequisite for developing nations.

Additionally you’re presenting a false dichotomy of either we hold back developing nations or we say goodbye to nature. That’s ridiculous. We can help them to grow and become modern and raise their quality of life while preserving their precious natural areas.

[mitchty]

As someone that has a godfather that has an actual Bison ranch, Bison are definitely still here thankfully, and are simultaneously awe inspiring and fear inducing.

That part of Dances with Wolves where they leave a trail is not inaccurate.

And Bison will graze on areas that to be blunt, are practially useless for anything else but digging up dinosaur bones. The only thing we need to do is get out of their way. And you can even cull them sustainably, just find the ones that are on their way out and use them for food.

But I know nothing about palm oil, I presume there should be some way to treat it like paper where we can leave the simians alone and farm our own.

Also, don't try to pet a Bison, even in national parks. They're like moose level scary if they see you as a threat. I don't get why people think wild animals like you petting them. I saw a buffalo wreck a F-250, they are not pets.

[firefoxd]

Serious question. Is there any precedent? Where a people developed without harming their surrounding.

[oh_sigh]

Connecting the coasts via trains would not have been possible with the millions of bison that used to inhabit the west. Either because of the bison directly destroying track, or interaction with the Natives who hunted the bison and were hostile towards Americans.

[gliboc]

Damn bisons destroying our fine tracks and bringing Indians with them; let's wipe out their species!