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skipwalker | 7 years ago

The evidence that there actually were any software issues related to unintended acceleration is pretty tenuous. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9311_Toyota_vehicle...

"Driver error or pedal misapplication was found responsible for most of the incidents.[28] The report ended stating, "Our conclusion is Toyota's problems were mechanical, not electrical." This included sticking accelerator pedals, and pedals caught under floor mats."

And Malcolm Gladwell's podcast about the subject, http://revisionisthistory.com/episodes/08-blame-game

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donbright|7 years ago

That doesn't make me trust them or their software / electrical team.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-fi-toyota-prius-i...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Barr_(software_enginee...

T-SB-0172-09

I love the concept of electrical cars but that has to come with a leap forward in software quality and electrical engineering quality, which I am not really seeing happen.

The idea of Quality is still, basically, alien in the software field. Some of that can be blamed on 'the marketplace' but then again, I believe that if people are going to call themselves "Engineers" they should take up that old mantle of the public responsibility inherent in that title, as it was developed after much blood and horror was spilled over the failed bridges and railroads of the 19th century.

tostitos1979|7 years ago

Um ... I don't know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCTf7wT5WR0

giancarlostoro|7 years ago

Yeah I remember reading about the bug here on HN sometime back. Maybe it was a mix of both mechanical issues and software issues to some extent? Not totally impossible. Heck wouldn't surprise me if one end said "don't worry about that, the software will handle it" and the other end said "don't worry about that, the hardware will handle that" kinda thing. But that's just me speculating, which does nobody any good.

earle_wa|7 years ago

This video is an excellent analysis. I love the detail these investigators went into to uncover the software development practices during the early 2000's at Toyota. I really hope the automobile industry has taken this to heart and is creating more process around the software that our lives depend on.