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Monolist: working hard to preserve the spirit of Inbox's organizational features

98 points| jakemmarsh | 7 years ago |monolist.co | reply

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[+] kcon|7 years ago|reply
I think "Google Inbox Replacement" is misleading if your workflow assumes users will use Gmail in addition to Monolist:

> We’re working on a Gmail integration as you read this! To start, the emails you star in Gmail and any threads that you haven’t responded to will become action items in Monolist, but we have plans for much more.

Personally I don't think I would use Monolist because I want to replace Google Inbox with a single service, not Gmail plus another service.

[+] akshaynathan|7 years ago|reply
That's fair (cofounder here).

Our eventual goal is to replace Gmail for any work/transactional emails. We're taking the approach of doing that one integration at a time, and providing a richer experience.

We do think that there's a world in which both of them are useful though. The problem as we see it right now with Gmail is you may receive a notification about a pull request or whatever, but you can't do anything with it and the data gets stale. Monolist will keep it in sync, and let you approve/merge/comment on it inline so you don't have to switch between 10 apps.

[+] igneo676|7 years ago|reply
It's possible I'm misunderstanding, but it also seems like they're more oriented on being a task list instead of a true email client. Inbox to me was just a much nicer gmail, though I understand a lot of people used it like a email based todo list and monolist might appeal to them
[+] alcwng3|7 years ago|reply
I can see why this title seems misleading, but I think it really depends on how you use Inbox and what features you care most about. What I'm really going to miss with Inbox is how my e-mails were framed as tasks that I needed to get through each day. I could easily check them off, or snooze them with an implied priority (later today, this weekend, someday, etc.).

I found a lot of value in that, so I hope that I'll find a lot of value in Monolist. I haven't found a task management app that successfully incorporates many integrations (that I actually use) in a way that is useful, and intuitive. I think there are a lot of opportunities to add delightful features, looking forward to giving feedback!

[+] nambit|7 years ago|reply
Just a heads up, their planned free version limits you to 500 items per month: https://monolist.co/pricing

I absolutely despise this kind of 'free' offering since it's more of a demo than an actual offer. Split it by user count, split it by features but the whole purpose of this thing is rendered moot by that limit.

[+] jakemmarsh|7 years ago|reply
Oops, that pricing page was actually left up erroneously (thus why it's not linked anywhere). That was a previous pricing model that is no longer active. Monolist is currently entirely free while we're in this open beta and development phase.

We actually abandoned that model because we agree with you. Limiting the number of items per month would be going against the use case of the product.

[+] buster|7 years ago|reply
What.. I've totally missed this. Inbox will be shut down? What the....

I am a happy user of inbox since its first days and now.. Again.. Google shuts down the next service.. Another point not to invest (time, in this case) into Google products, sadly. :(

[+] sigzero|7 years ago|reply
Yep, the major features of Inbox will be rolled into gmail at some point.
[+] djaychela|7 years ago|reply
My main use for inbox is snooze - it's allowed me to manage and prioritise emails brilliantly over the last couple of years. I also far prefer the clean interface to Gmail.

As a result of the demise of inbox, I'm looking for a replacement, but it will need a native android app for me, alas, so I guess I'll be stuck with Gmail after March 2019...

[+] PieSquared|7 years ago|reply
The new Gmail interface has snooze, so if that's the only thing you're missing it'll stick around. I mostly miss the "Trips" feature, having recently switched from Inbox to new Gmail...
[+] jakemmarsh|7 years ago|reply
We're aiming to achieve that same clean interface, so let us know if you have any feedback =) We do already support snoozing.

A native Android app is definitely on our roadmap, but in the short-term we always ensure our app is fully mobile responsive.

[+] citrablue|7 years ago|reply
I use (and pay for, ~$50/mo.) an awesome plugin called Gmelius. It really upgrades the gmail experience to a professional-grade system. Also lets you strip out a ton of the unnecessary gmail web chrome.
[+] 1123581321|7 years ago|reply
Can this misleading title be corrected? This isn’t (and can’t be) an Inbox replacement. It seems to have been written this way to self-promote.
[+] dang|7 years ago|reply
Ok, we replaced the title with a more modest phrase from the article body.
[+] kingbirdy|7 years ago|reply
This seems like a potentially good service, but as 'kcon said, not an Inbox replacement. It doesn't do bundling, snoozing, or pinning for emails, which are the key features of Inbox.
[+] akshaynathan|7 years ago|reply
We already have snoozing for items that come into Monolist, and bundling is on our radar as well.

We're working on a Gmail integration right now so we'll pull in any emails you actually read automatically, and let you label/organize/snooze/bundle/reply all without leaving the feed.

[+] octref|7 years ago|reply
Now when I see any new product I look for a pledge to not get acquired like PostHaven[0]. Otherwise I simply refuse to use it. Sparrow, Mailbox, Inbox...Have been burnt too many times.

[0]: https://posthaven.com

[+] bazeblackwood|7 years ago|reply
Would love to see an Outlook/Outlook Calendar integration. Any plans for that?
[+] jakemmarsh|7 years ago|reply
Not in the immediate future, but we've discussed it and it's definitely on our longer-term roadmap. Requests like yours also help us better prioritize that, so thanks!
[+] dev_parrott|7 years ago|reply
For me, the place where inbox mattered was as an email client, not a task manager. I like the task manager metaphor for an email client, and they way that it made me think about my email, but I never wanted to apply that to my other workflows. I just liked the inbox email client.
[+] thoraces|7 years ago|reply
In addition to what others said below, an iOS app is a hard requirement for me. Gonna have to pass for now but cheering you on.
[+] akshaynathan|7 years ago|reply
Thanks! We have an iOS app coming up. If you sign up or message me your email, we can notify you when it's done.
[+] therealmarv|7 years ago|reply
Gmail itself will be the Google Inbox replacement. They will integrate some missing Inbox features. Instead of panicking I would use inbox till the end and give Google some time... hopefully they will integrate the bundles in Gmail before shutting Inbox down.
[+] kdom13|7 years ago|reply
Snoozing and bundling are they key features that I love with Inbox.
[+] jakemmarsh|7 years ago|reply
Looks like the logged-in application is experiencing the "HN hug of death". The blog should still be fully accessible, but we'll have everything else back up soon!
[+] geoah|7 years ago|reply
Requiring full google drive access without explaining why or giving an option to opt out is a no go for me.

Idea seems interesting but I can't see why they would require access to my files.

[+] jakemmarsh|7 years ago|reply
We require full Google Drive access for a few reasons:

- Creating action items when you're tagged on any file - Creating action items when any comments are left on your files - Allowing you to search your entire Drive from Monolist

We never store the contents of your actual files. Those are just the permissions necessary to keep you up to date on any Drive action items.

[+] owaislone|7 years ago|reply
Any Inbox replacement will need to work completely offline. By that I mean it would have to speak to Gmail directly instead of routing my mail through some 3rd party servers.
[+] vvilliam0|7 years ago|reply
Show me the finished product. Stop promising to self-promote.
[+] jakemmarsh|7 years ago|reply
I don't think we'll ever be "finished". All the features that are listed in the blog post other than email (coming later this week), are already implemented, and you can check them out!

I know that email is the biggest one considering we're trying to replace Inbox, but I think creating a richer experience around transactional emails you receive from all your apps is already leaps and bounds better than Gmail for that use case.

[+] AJRF|7 years ago|reply
Bit of an aside here so sorry, but did any successful clones of Google Reader live longer than a week?

If so could someone point me towards it?

[+] mbrumlow|7 years ago|reply
I just switched to hosting my own server and using mu4e in emcas.
[+] trevoristall|7 years ago|reply
Needs Jira to be useful for me, very cool idea though!
[+] jakemmarsh|7 years ago|reply
We actually do have full Jira Cloud (and Confluence) support! Those just went live in the last week.