[jeff18]

This comes up every time Starcraft AI is discussed. It's really frustrating. Why immediately discount the incredible work AI researchers are doing by instantly assuming they are using cheap tactics like shown in your video?

When a Starcraft AI is ready, it will be incredibly obvious if it's using brand new builds, strategies, and tactics (which pros will immediately copy for the next $500,000 tournament) or if it's "just" using 10,000 APM to perfectly dodge attacks in a way that a human never could.

I'm guessing Google and Tencent are going for the former instead of the latter.

[arayh]

I'd really like to see Starcraft AI do counter builds and fake out human opponents with falsified scouting information. I can see AI eventually becoming good at information manipulation and taking advantage of human psychological tendencies.

[tfha]

You could fix this by capping the apm of the AI to 500

[arayh]

I feel like "useful" APM and "raw" APM are very different for humans than it would be for AI. You can technically get an AI to "optimize" their actions to the minimum required for the end result, but humans tend to frantically waste actions during a game.

[swaggyBoatswain]

I would cap it at 300apm, thats how high most professional koreans are IIRC. But that 300 apm is 90% redundant mouseclicks though