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Hayabusa 2 rovers send new images from Ryugu surface

278 points| DanBC | 7 years ago |bbc.co.uk | reply

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[+] cheeko1234|7 years ago|reply
"Gravity on the surface of Ryugu is very weak, so a rover propelled by normal wheels or crawlers would float upwards as soon as it started to move," officials with the Japan Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA) wrote in a description of MINERVA-II1A and MINERVA-II1B.

So, the robots — each of which measures 7 inches wide by 2.8 inches tall (18 by 7 centimeters) and weighs 2.4 lbs. (1.1 kilograms) — hop instead. They do this by moving a "torquer" in their interior, which rests atop a disk-shaped turntable.

By rotating the torquer, a reaction force against the asteroid surface makes the rover hop with a significant horizontal velocity," a team of researchers led by JAXA's Tetsuo Yoshimitsu wrote in a 2012 study outlining the concept. "After hopp[ing] into the free space, it moves ballistically. With this mechanism, by changing the magnitude of torque, the hopping speed can be altered, so as not to exceed … the escape velocity from the asteroid surface.

Src: https://www.space.com/41941-hayabusa2-asteroid-rovers-hoppin...

[+] criddell|7 years ago|reply
You don't happen to know of an animation showing the system in action, do you?
[+] mc32|7 years ago|reply
Wonder if they could use some sort of rather slow mechanical deformation to provide movement with pump mechanisms. I guess that still would rely on significant gravity or other anchoring ti avoid slippage.
[+] black_puppydog|7 years ago|reply
I love that they opted for color cameras. Not much color to be seen, but the flares, together with the motion blur (while falling and hopping!) make the pictures look really dynamic. :)
[+] joemi|7 years ago|reply
I'm not entirely sure that's motion blur. The images shown in the article make it look like it's just lens distortion. It's probably a fairly wide angle lens, and that's why things look stretched out the further from the center of the image they are. (I think.)
[+] magicalhippo|7 years ago|reply
Wonder if it's because they were planning on taking pictures while hopping? The usual one-picture-per-color-filter method that they usually use on space probes probably wouldn't work well while in relatively fast motion.
[+] java-man|7 years ago|reply
i wish they had better cameras though
[+] chuckledog|7 years ago|reply
すごいよ Sugoiyo! Super! Cool! Wow! Awesome achievement Japan.

I really admire that its means of propulsion doesn’t involve wheels (since the gravity is so low)

[+] joering2|7 years ago|reply
Just came back from Europe. Everyone knows about this and all media reported on it. Surprisingly so little is said in American media. Its not new that Americans do not like other nations succeed in space! If these were US-based rovers, each network will give it 10 minutes cover. Same sad story about Chinese Moon landing. Most American friends laughed at me when I told them China landed rover on moon. Some even question Wiki article as conspiracy theory.
[+] z2|7 years ago|reply
Consider literal competitions--it was similarly appalling to watch recent Olympics in the US. 95% or more of the coverage was of Americans winning. If a particular day had fewer wins, they would replay earlier footage rather than dare show any other country succeeding at non-American dominant areas. One saving grace is that the NBC app had all the footage they didn't deem worthy of broadcasting.
[+] Gravityloss|7 years ago|reply
It's also that the PR done by NASA is about 100x as good as all the other space agencies in the world.

Really good photos and videos and web pages and TV material. Lenient sharing licenses etc.

[+] maxxxxx|7 years ago|reply
It's a big problem in the US that other countries only get acknowledged as in relation to the US. In a way this myopia serves the country pretty well and it's big enough to do most things themselves. But sometimes interesting things that happen in other countries get overlooked and nothing is learned.
[+] sandworm101|7 years ago|reply
>> Some even question Wiki article as conspiracy theory.

Is there a Wikipedia page that "some" Americans don't think is a conspiracy? Conspiracies used to be about aliens and secret research programs in bunkers. Now they are about pizza restaurants. I gave a presentation at an Airforce base where a flat-earther accused me of participating in the conspiracy. I wanted to throw him out as a dangerous or unstable person, or strap him to the underside of a plane and show him the curve in person. These days, every article, every statement, has to address the 5-10% of people who just don't believe anything anyone tells them.

I am waiting for one of the "airplanes run on compress air" conspiracy people. (It's the latest version of chemtrails.) We'll have them fill a few aircraft by hand... with buckets.

[+] cheeko1234|7 years ago|reply
Yup, am surprised at how many people at NASA have no clue this is going on. I expected at least a retweet or a mention from NASA.
[+] coldtea|7 years ago|reply
It's even worse in music, movies, and sports.
[+] tychomaz|7 years ago|reply
The Chinese moon CGI looked totally real.
[+] walrus01|7 years ago|reply
Considering their very tiny size, I'm curious about three things... What sort of software/watchdog timer these mini rovers have set up for charging their batteries, the size and type of the batteries (in Wh, chemistry, etc), and how often they wake up and take photos and temperature measurements.

The size of the surface area exposed to the sun with high-efficiency PV cells is not very large, since they are so tiny. I'm assuming the cells are triple-junction GaAs for the greatest Wh per square cm per day.

[+] tychomaz|7 years ago|reply
What compression protocol is used to send images?
[+] JoeAltmaier|7 years ago|reply
The pictures are thrilling! The rock looks stratified - which might imply they were created under gravity? Or is it just the camera angle...
[+] sandworm101|7 years ago|reply
Less gravity, more radiation/light. There is lots of water/ice involved, and the rock varies in distance from the sun. So the layered effect is probably the result of different temperatures at various depths, and the resulting sublimation (or not) of water ice. Imho it is akin to the layered effect in soil during a hard frost.
[+] sytelus|7 years ago|reply
Stupid question: why does these images look so low res and over/under exposed. Sometime I feel iPhone camera tend to do much better job than those million dollar cameras on these missions. I am obviously missing some key details.
[+] dekhn|7 years ago|reply
One of my personal wishes is that we covered as much surface area of asteroids and other interesting bodies in the solar system; one wonders, if we sample enough, what unexpected things we will find?
[+] yazr|7 years ago|reply
How does one "land" on an asteroid which is spinning too fast ?

Is it at all possible to match the spin of a smallish android from orbit ?

[+] tychomaz|7 years ago|reply
They have an open websocket to an Asteroid Landing five-layer Neural Network. The lander sends images back in real time and the earth-borne NN sends it telemetry adjustments in BSON.
[+] gchokov|7 years ago|reply
Sadly, no diamonds on the surface. Or gold. Would love to see how "the market" will react to that ;)
[+] skykooler|7 years ago|reply
Diamonds are unlikely to be found on asteroids, because they require immense pressures to form, and the gravity on asteroids is so weak that even at the core the pressure is less than sea level air pressure on Earth.
[+] 21|7 years ago|reply
I'm sure it's a very complicated problem, but I would have expected a 5 year old rover to have a better camera.

I am a bit shocked at the potatoness of it.

[+] cheeko1234|7 years ago|reply
Hayabusa2 carries multiple science payloads for remote sensing, sampling, and four small rovers that will investigate the asteroid surface by hopping and then on top of all that it will bring back samples in 2020!

All of that for less than $150 million! From a research data point of view, even having a color camera was overkill. Reminds me of Carl Sagan having to convince NASA to take the pale blue dot picture since it doesn’t have any significant value in the field of astronomy.

[+] rwmj|7 years ago|reply
I'm pretty sure it's not a poor camera because they couldn't afford it. It'll be because of weight considerations. If you have a higher resolution camera, everything has to be bigger and heavier - larger camera, more local storage, more processing power, bigger antenna (these have to be sent using lossless compression for science), etc. Each robot has a mass of 1.1 kg, lighter than my laptop - and it has to do other science and return a sample to earth!