For some reason this was also a breaking point for me. I've switched to Firefox and Duck Duck Go. It's a small thing, but boy do you start to feel like a second rate citizen fast. The state of extensions on Firefox is a mess. I can get the usual privacy extensions easily enough, but things like using media keys to control videos playing in the back ground. Or how in the phone app of Firefox you need to pull up the side menu to refresh instead of just pulling the page down. It's all small stuff, but it adds up.
But despite this, and the lower quality search results of DDG, I'm still going to push forward with degooglifying my stuff. But I'm in deep. Drive, keep, Gmail, photos, hell I'm even typing this on a pixel 2. It's gonna take a while.
It's been surprisingly difficult finding a good replacement for keep. If anyone has suggestions I'm open. I'll probably make the shift to protonmail to replace Gmail. Not sure what do to about drive at this time.
The issue is that Google's stuff has always been very reliable and performance (well performant enough). For example I'll often ping Google.com for a network test. Google.com is never down, it's always my hardware, or my ISP, never Google.
Im just rambling at this point, but I think somewhere in there is a point about reliability, ease of use, and security that makes Google's products so compelling. Hence why they'll be able to get away with privacy issues like this.
To replace Google Keep, you definitely want to checkout https://standardnotes.org/ - Going back to Google Keep would make me feel like a second class citizen today...
As for the Pixel it's ok, just switch to LineageOS, but you'll want F-Droid + Yalp, or F-Droid + Aptoide if you feel adventurous (awesome project but they are just getting started.
Drive... I'd recommend Nextcloud, but then you need to choose a provider since it's decentralised. If you're in Europe I'd say woelkli.com, if you're in Asia or America sorry I don't know what to recommend but I'm sure there are good options. Nextcloud will do a lot more for you if you need (CalDAV, CardDAV, Password manager, Bookmarks manager, etc).
I spent Sunday afternoon researching alternatives for Keep after hitting my breaking point with DontBeEvilCorp a couple weeks ago.
The best I found by a mile is Notion.so. In fact, it is such a great app, it has promted me to consider migrating years of OneNote notebooks, along with trying it out as a replacement for Todoist.
Google photos I replaced with Amazon Prime Photos (from pan to fire, I know, but I'm still oddly happier).
Google Drive was the easiest - I use a combo of DropBox and Arq Backup Tool going to Backblaze B2.
Email has been hard. I have always maintained my own email domain, but had that forward to gmail for the convenience. Not sure what I'm going to do there.
Me to, personally I drop GMail for a personal mail (20 euros per years, with a bunch of mailbox + unlimited aliases altogether with a personal domain. Benefit: alias to tell anyone a different mail so I know where the spam came from and I can easy drop anyone I dislike. Lightweight webmail (Roundcube) instead of monsters like actual GMail, login with user and password visible at the same time without the absurdity of Google that demand user-enter-password-enter cycle. A STANDARD IMAP so I can properly delete my mails from my local maildir without the need of moving to trash, sync back, delete from trash and sync back again.
For search IMVHO there is no point in switching between Google search and other equivalent search engine, simply because DDG, QWant etc are still company offering something from their own server. So I try to switch to YaCy (FOSS distributed search engine, a bit a java monster but not as monstrous as many Java crap we all know. I still use few time a day Google search mostly because it work far better...
On Keep I switch to Orgzly on mobile and sync my notes or to be more precise the sole parts of them I want on mobile, via org-mode+rsync. On Android sync without cloud is a pity due to limited fs access, however Termux work wall enough...
I have no need of Drive and I use personal calendar (via CardDav/Radicale) and contacts so I'm less bound.
However I'm still on Android seeing no real alternatives, SailFish was a substantial fail, Purism phone it's not there, OpenMoko, GreenPhone, ... are all old dead projects...
That was also the breaking point for me. I've switched back to firefox, I bought a new iPhone XS (moving off the pixel), I'm in the process of getting my own email server up (though I may just switch to proton mail we'll see), and I'm waiting on a SIM to port my number off of Google Voice.
Maybe its all futile, but I'm committed to degoogling my life at least 50%. They've shown their hand and I don't like what I see.
If you want Chrome-like features without Chrome then I would recommend the Brave browser. It's built on top of Chromium which is what Chrome is built on top of and it has built-in privacy protection by blocking all tracking and advertising code. Version 1 of the browser will be introducing Chrome extensions to the browser so the experience will be very similar.
I have been trying (not entirely successfully) to move away from Google for a while now.
Gmail replaced by Fastmail. I used to think Fastmail's interface to be clunky - but no longer. It was never an issue, because you can very easily use any mail client, each with their own 'app password'.
Drawbacks: GMail's filtering it top notch, for both spam and their pre-defined categories (updates, social, etc). I never realized how many rules it saved me until I made the switch.
Browser changed to Firefox for the most part. Still not as battery efficient as I would like, and not as performant as Chrome in some sites (ironically, many of these belong to Google).
Google Cloud is nice, but I only use that at work.
Google maps is... difficult to replace. If I am in an Apple device, I can use that, but it's an inferior replacement.
The Google search engine is still second to none. I have made the switch to DuckDuckGo, but I find myself using !g VERY often.
Some things are just nice to have. The damn Google Cloud Print service works more reliably than trying to print from OSX over wifi. I have no idea why.
My 'breaking point' was not privacy or security. It's just that Google pulls the plug on projects surprisingly often. So I figured a gradual transition would be better. It's a very slow transition indeed...
> It's been surprisingly difficult finding a good replacement for keep. If anyone has suggestions I'm open.
I've been on the hunt for a good Keep replacement myself, but not exactly a replacement for the "Simple" Keep interface. In my perfect world I wanted something markdown based for taking notes, and syncable between mobile and web. Most (but not all) of my personal checkmarks has been checked with Joplin[1] which was not yet mentioned in this thread; at a glance:
- Synced via cloud accounts (Either it's Dropbox, OneNote, or even your own Nextcloud via WebDAV, if you wish to be public cloud free!)
- Notes are Markdown based
- Notes import done also via .md files, folder of .mds (including nesting), or even Evernote's ENEX format.
- Dedicated applications for PC/OSx/Linux and even Android & iOS native apps. No web interface available since it's used to sync to an external source. But with that much access with said applications, it's a tradeoff I can take.
(I just found out about this app this morning, so please excuse my enthusiasm :)
So, pick your battles. SimpleNote is the solution to Keep. FireFox addon's are getting better now Chrome and Firefox agreed a common format so wait on that one. Protonmail is great, but simple so don't expect the bell's and whistles you're used to.
Photo's is still the best product around so personally I'd stick with it, same for Drive (although Dropbox does work and is solid).
My current hangup is migrating a bunch of accounts that use my GMail for 2FA over to another email address. I really just need to enumerate only the essential ones and divest from/delete the rest.
I had the good fortune of realizing that I was less tied to Google than I thought.
> For example I'll often ping Google.com for a network test. Google.com is never down, it's always my hardware, or my ISP, never Google.
I've stopped doing this recently when, during a string of nearly-statewide Frontier outages, Google services still worked while everything else was inaccessible (actually happened multiple times over the course of a week). It felt a little bizarre watching YouTube videos fine but being unable to connect to IRC. I've started pinging Cloudflare instead.
Too bad Canonical dropped Ubuntu Touch. There are other debian-based contenders but I think Tizen is currently the only practical choice. Unfortunately Tizen's code has a terrible reputation.
So... as I type this to you Google is probably watching me. Yay.
Replacing keep is annoying because there's no export and Google takeout dumps HTML files for each note, and not very good ones. That may have improved by now, but it was an issue for me about 6 months ago.
Nextcloud made it pretty easy to get away from Google Drive and Keep. I really like using QOwnNotes to manage my markdown files which are synced to nextcloud.
I'm in fairly deep too, ~3 years of photos in their service. As convenient it is to do search and essentially having a "free" backup, I really need to move off. I'm not worried about moving mail since it's more of an iterative process, but moving photos is going to be a pita.
It’s the closing paragraph that’s the important bit:
In the end, this is why I’m moving away from the Google ecosystem. If nothing else works, then at least I can vote with my feet—or my fingertips.
Google have set their path, so it will take effort for them to deviate from it. The best way to show them that the effort is worthwhile is to affect their bottom line by reducing your use of their services. And maybe you’ll find that the competitors are still there and pretty good.
Firefox is fine and DuckDuckGo is good enough by now.
Firefox has the added bonus that it doesn't implement a two tier cookie system. Of which one tier cannot be deleted.
This, in combination with the new and improved "sign-in-convenience" convinced me that Google is exactly as dirty as any other tech company and should be avoided like the plague, wherever possible.
The problem with this (and also Facebook) is that they control so much data, that they can monetize your information even if you don't use their services. Not as much as if you do. But still enough. You literally can't not make money for them without quitting the internet completely. And quitting using credit/debit cards. That's the dark part of all this. You can think you're walking away, but you're still living in the Truman Show.
I'm almost there. There are no Google apps on the phone any more.
The last push to stop using Chrome even occasionally has been the recent user-hostile changes, and the recent style redesign. It must be my middle aged eyes, but ever since that I had a significant misclick rate, despite or perhaps because of, all the extra whitespace. Of course now any contrast at all is against Google style guidelines.
I wish there were a neat way to avoid the online Google features every other site links to - Captchas, fonts, Google scripts and such. Possibly just for bloody-minded completeness, but I'd prefer to give them no data at all.
> But it brings users within an accidental click of sharing their bookmarks and browsing history with Google.
It's two clicks, you need to be really explicit about it. The first click opens a huge "You're about to turn on sync" dialog, where you have to click "Yes, I'm in" again.
I don't disagree with the general sentiment, but the article isn't factually correct. It's also by the same person who misunderstood the recent chrome changes and wrote a long blog post triggered by them misunderstanding what was going on (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gyny83/google-chr...).
Could you tell me what claims in my post were incorrect? So far nobody at Google has disputed them, just pointed out that they don’t activate sync (which my blog post already stipulates.)
I have already begun to vote (against Google) with my feet/fingertips. I realize that even if I use non-Google products/services - much like the Kevin Bacon game - I'm only so many degrees away. But still, I feel i have at least a little more agency over my data. If I do this (move away from google), and then another person does this, and then another...eventually if many more do this, there could be a dent; which would hopefully more positively influence google (AND others like google); in essence manually move Adam smith's supposed invisible hand.
I've switched to Safari and DuckDuckGo last week. I can still search on google with the DuckDuckGo shortcut !g when the duck doesn't quack. I tried Firefox but it became too slow. Safari is actually pretty good, for me the main problem is that it reduced my productivity for web development (I need to get used to the safari devtools) and the lack of some browser extensions (redux devtools etc). For now, I keep switching back to chrome for web development.
With all of these emerging privacy concerns, it reinforces my choice to move away from the Android and Google ecosystem insofar as I can.
It reinforces my choice to embrace the Apple ecosystem. While their products aren't perfect, they do take your privacy seriously and you do pay for it. But to me, that seems like a fair trade. Additionally, they have second to none customer support, so it's going to take a company providing the same level of support (3-5 business day repairs on laptops) for me to move away from Apple.
The default on is a favorite ad-tech strategy; its how a lot of websites gather customer data, since most users couldn't care less that they're always signed in, always sending browsing/tracking data to other parties.
There is little regulation in online advertising; GDPR helped a lot but most ad revenues are still generated in the US. I have a feeling that some regulation would go a long way in improving the online browsing experience and prevent incidents like this, which can get tiring: every time a trusted internet company makes a privacy "error", everyone is outraged, we shame the company to getting better yadda yadda.
I wonder if, in a couple of generations from now, we’ll be browsing private messages, emails, browsing history, etc—all the “private” details that Google et al, have amassed—much in the same way the Stasi files are available now.
Today Google popped up a little survey in the corner of my account page, with questions like "I trust Google to keep my data private", "It's easy to find out what data Google has on me", that sort.
Answers were one-click response buttons: Strongly Agree, Agree, Neither Agree nor Disagree, Disagree, Strongly Disagree (top to bottom, in that order).
The first time I clicked "Strongly Disagree", a few questions in, the next question had the order of the answers reversed so that Strongly Agree was on bottom. Submitted an opposite sentiment before realizing what happened.
Strikes me as manipulative, like the survey really isn't so much for discovering my opinion as it is for collecting favorable ones. I wonder who will get the results, and to what end?
I'm trying so hard to move my email away from Gmail. I have a paid proton account by the syncing for desktop and the mobile app is terrible. Are there any other options out there? I switched to Firefox and I love it so far.
It gets thrown around a lot and in my opinion for good reason - I've switched to Fastmail[1] myself. I've got the $5/mo account because I wanted to bring my own domains.
Had it for a while just forwarding everything to my gmail but have now cut the forwarding and switched fully. If you're in the Apple ecosystem the app I attribute to finally moving was Spark[2], which I discovered after Google announced it was killing off Inbox
I am finding that Amazon Workmail is pretty awesome, even for personal use cases. It was really convenient for me to configure as well because the domain I wanted to use was already in Route53.
Google always knew that trust was very important to their long term growth and viability. It's why "Don't be evil" was their motto for so long and it actually appeared to be more than lip service. That motto is gone, and now they're actively monetizing that accumulated goodwill.
For me breaking point was enabled by default google assistant on any Android phone. Not assistant itself, but one smaaaal feature. If you hold home button a little bit longer phone takes screenshot and uploads it to google to recognize it. That... just insane. I only wonder why no one is talking about this?
I think it’s probably possible to model credit-worthiness according to search history and site use patterns. Google’s partnership with Mastercard could be something to do with that. What would be particularly irritating is if Google start showing credit offers next to product ads. Eg you look at an advert for a new iPhone and google then lets you know Mastercard will give you an immediate credit line for an impulse purchase. Marketing strategy is obviously focused on overcoming your will power to buy things you want but don’t need. One of our last lines of defence is: I can’t afford that right now...Mastercard and by axiom Google profit when you don’t think like that.
I don't think anything's actually changed in terms of how you can be tracked, it's just being made obvious to you. If you don't want your browsing linked to your gmail, use different profiles or use a private browsing window.
I have an understanding on both sides. To keep our privacy is something we initially feel should be our decisions. However, besides companies buying Google services, most individuals do not pay for Google services. Chrome, Gmail, Google search, are monetarily free for us. We are paying with our information. If you use the service then you are saying yes to allow companies to enact these dark patterns, ethics aside. One could argue if the internet is a right, but that's another day
Although it would be helpful for some if Google laid it out transparently to individuals who do not have the technical slop to understand what they are "losing"
Google is a brilliant company but ad based business models have weird incentive structures. When your primary customer isn't actually using your product it makes product decisions harder. I don't think Google means harm but it does seem like they are making some questionable decisions. Zuck was smart to remove ads on FB even though it cost FB lots of ad revenue. Their web browser change had no obvious benefit for users compare to how creepy it is to have gmail forced on you by the web browser. they might have some hidden strategy that will eventually benefit chrome users but it's not clear what that is
[+] [-] CosmicBagel|7 years ago|reply
But despite this, and the lower quality search results of DDG, I'm still going to push forward with degooglifying my stuff. But I'm in deep. Drive, keep, Gmail, photos, hell I'm even typing this on a pixel 2. It's gonna take a while.
It's been surprisingly difficult finding a good replacement for keep. If anyone has suggestions I'm open. I'll probably make the shift to protonmail to replace Gmail. Not sure what do to about drive at this time.
The issue is that Google's stuff has always been very reliable and performance (well performant enough). For example I'll often ping Google.com for a network test. Google.com is never down, it's always my hardware, or my ISP, never Google.
Im just rambling at this point, but I think somewhere in there is a point about reliability, ease of use, and security that makes Google's products so compelling. Hence why they'll be able to get away with privacy issues like this.
[+] [-] gustavmarwin|7 years ago|reply
As for the Pixel it's ok, just switch to LineageOS, but you'll want F-Droid + Yalp, or F-Droid + Aptoide if you feel adventurous (awesome project but they are just getting started.
Drive... I'd recommend Nextcloud, but then you need to choose a provider since it's decentralised. If you're in Europe I'd say woelkli.com, if you're in Asia or America sorry I don't know what to recommend but I'm sure there are good options. Nextcloud will do a lot more for you if you need (CalDAV, CardDAV, Password manager, Bookmarks manager, etc).
[+] [-] richjdsmith|7 years ago|reply
The best I found by a mile is Notion.so. In fact, it is such a great app, it has promted me to consider migrating years of OneNote notebooks, along with trying it out as a replacement for Todoist.
Google photos I replaced with Amazon Prime Photos (from pan to fire, I know, but I'm still oddly happier).
Google Drive was the easiest - I use a combo of DropBox and Arq Backup Tool going to Backblaze B2.
Email has been hard. I have always maintained my own email domain, but had that forward to gmail for the convenience. Not sure what I'm going to do there.
Hope that helped.
[+] [-] xte|7 years ago|reply
For search IMVHO there is no point in switching between Google search and other equivalent search engine, simply because DDG, QWant etc are still company offering something from their own server. So I try to switch to YaCy (FOSS distributed search engine, a bit a java monster but not as monstrous as many Java crap we all know. I still use few time a day Google search mostly because it work far better...
On Keep I switch to Orgzly on mobile and sync my notes or to be more precise the sole parts of them I want on mobile, via org-mode+rsync. On Android sync without cloud is a pity due to limited fs access, however Termux work wall enough...
I have no need of Drive and I use personal calendar (via CardDav/Radicale) and contacts so I'm less bound.
However I'm still on Android seeing no real alternatives, SailFish was a substantial fail, Purism phone it's not there, OpenMoko, GreenPhone, ... are all old dead projects...
[+] [-] billylindeman|7 years ago|reply
Maybe its all futile, but I'm committed to degoogling my life at least 50%. They've shown their hand and I don't like what I see.
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[+] [-] outworlder|7 years ago|reply
Gmail replaced by Fastmail. I used to think Fastmail's interface to be clunky - but no longer. It was never an issue, because you can very easily use any mail client, each with their own 'app password'.
Drawbacks: GMail's filtering it top notch, for both spam and their pre-defined categories (updates, social, etc). I never realized how many rules it saved me until I made the switch.
Browser changed to Firefox for the most part. Still not as battery efficient as I would like, and not as performant as Chrome in some sites (ironically, many of these belong to Google).
Google Cloud is nice, but I only use that at work.
Google maps is... difficult to replace. If I am in an Apple device, I can use that, but it's an inferior replacement.
The Google search engine is still second to none. I have made the switch to DuckDuckGo, but I find myself using !g VERY often.
Some things are just nice to have. The damn Google Cloud Print service works more reliably than trying to print from OSX over wifi. I have no idea why.
My 'breaking point' was not privacy or security. It's just that Google pulls the plug on projects surprisingly often. So I figured a gradual transition would be better. It's a very slow transition indeed...
[+] [-] bilange|7 years ago|reply
I've been on the hunt for a good Keep replacement myself, but not exactly a replacement for the "Simple" Keep interface. In my perfect world I wanted something markdown based for taking notes, and syncable between mobile and web. Most (but not all) of my personal checkmarks has been checked with Joplin[1] which was not yet mentioned in this thread; at a glance:
- Synced via cloud accounts (Either it's Dropbox, OneNote, or even your own Nextcloud via WebDAV, if you wish to be public cloud free!)
- Notes are Markdown based
- Notes import done also via .md files, folder of .mds (including nesting), or even Evernote's ENEX format.
- Dedicated applications for PC/OSx/Linux and even Android & iOS native apps. No web interface available since it's used to sync to an external source. But with that much access with said applications, it's a tradeoff I can take.
(I just found out about this app this morning, so please excuse my enthusiasm :)
[1] https://joplin.cozic.net/
[+] [-] stemc43|7 years ago|reply
https://prism-break.org/en/
^wow how quickly people forgot about NSA spying, snowden etc.
[+] [-] amelius|7 years ago|reply
Isn't this mostly because you don't know yet how the same features work in FF and DDG?
[+] [-] Moribund|7 years ago|reply
So, pick your battles. SimpleNote is the solution to Keep. FireFox addon's are getting better now Chrome and Firefox agreed a common format so wait on that one. Protonmail is great, but simple so don't expect the bell's and whistles you're used to.
Photo's is still the best product around so personally I'd stick with it, same for Drive (although Dropbox does work and is solid).
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I had the good fortune of realizing that I was less tied to Google than I thought.
> For example I'll often ping Google.com for a network test. Google.com is never down, it's always my hardware, or my ISP, never Google.
I've stopped doing this recently when, during a string of nearly-statewide Frontier outages, Google services still worked while everything else was inaccessible (actually happened multiple times over the course of a week). It felt a little bizarre watching YouTube videos fine but being unable to connect to IRC. I've started pinging Cloudflare instead.
[+] [-] nobody271|7 years ago|reply
Too bad Canonical dropped Ubuntu Touch. There are other debian-based contenders but I think Tizen is currently the only practical choice. Unfortunately Tizen's code has a terrible reputation.
So... as I type this to you Google is probably watching me. Yay.
[+] [-] exadeci|7 years ago|reply
One of the hard parts will be to leave behind the awesome google photo
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In the end, this is why I’m moving away from the Google ecosystem. If nothing else works, then at least I can vote with my feet—or my fingertips.
Google have set their path, so it will take effort for them to deviate from it. The best way to show them that the effort is worthwhile is to affect their bottom line by reducing your use of their services. And maybe you’ll find that the competitors are still there and pretty good.
[+] [-] CaptainZapp|7 years ago|reply
Firefox has the added bonus that it doesn't implement a two tier cookie system. Of which one tier cannot be deleted.
This, in combination with the new and improved "sign-in-convenience" convinced me that Google is exactly as dirty as any other tech company and should be avoided like the plague, wherever possible.
[+] [-] ktosobcy|7 years ago|reply
(firefox and DDG user here)
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The last push to stop using Chrome even occasionally has been the recent user-hostile changes, and the recent style redesign. It must be my middle aged eyes, but ever since that I had a significant misclick rate, despite or perhaps because of, all the extra whitespace. Of course now any contrast at all is against Google style guidelines.
I wish there were a neat way to avoid the online Google features every other site links to - Captchas, fonts, Google scripts and such. Possibly just for bloody-minded completeness, but I'd prefer to give them no data at all.
[+] [-] bla2|7 years ago|reply
It's two clicks, you need to be really explicit about it. The first click opens a huge "You're about to turn on sync" dialog, where you have to click "Yes, I'm in" again.
I don't disagree with the general sentiment, but the article isn't factually correct. It's also by the same person who misunderstood the recent chrome changes and wrote a long blog post triggered by them misunderstanding what was going on (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/gyny83/google-chr...).
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It reinforces my choice to embrace the Apple ecosystem. While their products aren't perfect, they do take your privacy seriously and you do pay for it. But to me, that seems like a fair trade. Additionally, they have second to none customer support, so it's going to take a company providing the same level of support (3-5 business day repairs on laptops) for me to move away from Apple.
[+] [-] pm90|7 years ago|reply
There is little regulation in online advertising; GDPR helped a lot but most ad revenues are still generated in the US. I have a feeling that some regulation would go a long way in improving the online browsing experience and prevent incidents like this, which can get tiring: every time a trusted internet company makes a privacy "error", everyone is outraged, we shame the company to getting better yadda yadda.
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[+] [-] ckastner|7 years ago|reply
"Worried About" sounds like it's Google who's being negatively affected by this, but that doesn't seem to be the main point of the story.
Is this a common pattern?
[+] [-] MikeTV|7 years ago|reply
Answers were one-click response buttons: Strongly Agree, Agree, Neither Agree nor Disagree, Disagree, Strongly Disagree (top to bottom, in that order).
The first time I clicked "Strongly Disagree", a few questions in, the next question had the order of the answers reversed so that Strongly Agree was on bottom. Submitted an opposite sentiment before realizing what happened.
Strikes me as manipulative, like the survey really isn't so much for discovering my opinion as it is for collecting favorable ones. I wonder who will get the results, and to what end?
[+] [-] observr9|7 years ago|reply
Am I the only person who relies on that feature daily for their work?
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[+] [-] corobo|7 years ago|reply
Had it for a while just forwarding everything to my gmail but have now cut the forwarding and switched fully. If you're in the Apple ecosystem the app I attribute to finally moving was Spark[2], which I discovered after Google announced it was killing off Inbox
[1] https://www.fastmail.com/ [2] https://sparkmailapp.com/
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[+] [-] allthecybers|7 years ago|reply
And recently I deleted my last Google account after moving domains, voice number and email to other providers.
These are marketing companies and you are their product. This will only get worse. Opt out now.
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Although it would be helpful for some if Google laid it out transparently to individuals who do not have the technical slop to understand what they are "losing"
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