[dnomad]

Ah, I see, the endless diarrhea of anti-China propaganda is totally deserved because it's China is untrustworthy. And how can China dare demand access to IP, they're Chinese, their job is just to be dumb cheap labor right?

What is really striking about the logic at work here is that you see the exact same thing happening in the most authoritarian countries. Saudi Arabia, Russia, Venezuela, and America. The media pumps out the same endless propaganda designating some external entity. The same idiots lap it up and whip themselves into a frenzy in daily two minute hate sessions. The same paranoia, the same hatred, the same fear.

As I said before, we've reached the point where this sort of behavior is practiced openly and without shame. This is key. This story was quickly voted to the top of HN and the comments are full of similar nonsense or defenders of the nonsense. That says it all but, ironically, there's not much else to be said because you really think China is the problem here and there's no rational discussion to be had with such committed ideologues.

[dang]

You've gone way past substantive discussion and dived straight into nationalistic flamewar. We've warned you not to do this before. If you keep doing it, we will ban you. It doesn't matter how right you are, it's a violation of what this site is for.

In particular, "boo China" vs. "fuck you yay China" flamewars are equal parts dumb and destructive, and none of that is welcome here, so please stop it.

[everdrive]

Are you chinese?

[product50]

You have no concrete points. Read my thread again and come back with a solid reply. China is losing the trust battle and it doesn't matter whether they are actually doing anything wrong or not. There is no point getting angry.

BTW while you are at it on Chinese access to IP. It is extremely clear that they are doing everything in their power to get access to it. Whether that is through illegal means such as the recent arrest of Chinese citizen in Belgium, or detention of another Chinese national working for Apple's self driving cars or even DuPont formally launching a complaint to US administration regarding it. Wake up and smell the coffee.

[dang]

Nationalistic flamewar is not welcome on HN, so please don't do it here.

[dba7dba]

Chinese companies have their hands in pretty much most of electronic devices used in the world today. NONE of the other nations such as Russian, etc have capacity.

I would stop having so called anti-China concern once the people of China start electing their government leadership in a meaningful way.

mic drop. I will show myself out.

[dang]

If you continue to practice nationalistic flamewar on HN, we will ban you. Whichever country you're for or against, it's a violation of what this site is for.

In particular, "boo China" vs. "fuck you yay China" flamewars are equal parts dumb and destructive, and none of that is welcome here.