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L.A.'s Most Derided Piece of Public Art Is About to Light Up Again

138 points| extraterra | 7 years ago |atlasobscura.com | reply

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[+] kibwen|7 years ago|reply
> Given the decay of time and the risk of turning it on, the team is using custom-built LED triangles that sit atop each hand-blown glass prism to light it up.

I think they've inadvertently created an interesting new dimension to the artwork here. Software developers especially should be able to appreciate the feeling of being unable to properly reengineer a flawed system due to expense or expedience, and just slapping another layer on top instead. Sort of like a celebration of path dependence. I'd like to see more examples of long-form artworks that gradually evolve through different artists and eras.

[+] sandworm101|7 years ago|reply
>> I'd like to see more examples of long-form artworks that gradually evolve through different artists and eras.

Much of this is actually illegal in many counties. Re-working a sculpture is seen as trampeling on the artists rights, specifically "moral rights" which cannot be contracted away. The classic example case of this is Snow v. Eaton Center.

"In Snow, a 1982 case at the Ontario High Court of Justice, the defendant had purchased a sculpture of 60 geese that they placed inside their shopping centre. During their Christmas celebration the defendant tried to attach ribbons to the necks of the geese. The plaintiff alleged that the addition of the ribbons modified his work in a manner prejudicial to his honour or reputation."

[+] Luc|7 years ago|reply
Pictures of the original electronics: http://eecue.com/a/1421/TriforiumControlCenter.html
[+] 8_hours_ago|7 years ago|reply
Wow! Seeing those pictures makes it obvious why they decided to add new electronics and lights instead of reusing the existing ones. Even with documentation that looks like it would be a real pain to interface with.
[+] sizzle|7 years ago|reply
How many raspberry pi's would it approximately take to replace all these older electronics? I've seen an impressive LED matrix controlled by one raspberry pi, strobed to music and displayed low resolution images and videos. Thoughts?
[+] Tistel|7 years ago|reply
Oh, so sad. Its looks like so much work went into the piece's computer. I wonder if anyone has done a blender (or whatever) animation of what the goal was. I would love to see it. Why on earth would they cement the wire in? bizarre. Put in a hollow tube so you can pull new wires in. That can't be a new idea. Still, great story.
[+] krrrh|7 years ago|reply
It may also be of interest to HN that Jona Bechtolt & Claire Evans who are leading this project are the core members of the band Yacht. Claire recently published Broad Band [1] to acclaim, which explores the history of women involved in the early years of the internet. She also edits Vice’s science fiction site. Both are very cool people who continuously crank out interesting projects.

[1] https://clairelevans.com

[+] gregable|7 years ago|reply
> Back in the 1970s, a computer used 8-bit tape, in binary code—picture a roll of paper tape with holes cut into it.

This seems like quite an ambitious project for 1975!

[+] duxup|7 years ago|reply
>Its primitive, custom-designed computer couldn’t execute Young’s intentions; the sound came out wrong, and the lights rarely synced as they should have.

I'm a bit surprised by this. Most professional artists I know put a huge amount of effort into working with / experimenting with the medium they're working in get the results they want. I don't know any (i'm sure there are some) who do one off experiments, they're usually pretty experienced with the materials / medium they work with.

[+] soperj|7 years ago|reply
It was built in 1975. How would they have a huge amount of experience in the medium?
[+] mmjaa|7 years ago|reply
Awesome! I have walked past it a few times and wondered how it was ever supposed to have worked, so its going to be wonderful to see it in action one day ..
[+] kens|7 years ago|reply
Anyone know what computer the Triforium used originally? I searched around but couldn't find details.
[+] daodedickinson|7 years ago|reply
Walt Disney Concert Hall is more derided. Maybe that would be "architecture", which counts as "public art" for me, but perhaps not thee. Some would also name Ramón C. Cortines School of Visual and Performing Arts, but I like that one.
[+] rossdavidh|7 years ago|reply
"Hey, there's this new piece of technology, I think it will enable great things! Let's start off with a really big budget, very public project, first thing!" Ouch. Not that the software developer community has any room to talk.
[+] rconti|7 years ago|reply
What's the risk of turning it on? A short, inside of .. the concrete?
[+] accrual|7 years ago|reply
I wonder if the estimated multimillion restoration cost includes rewiring the structure. Perhaps the existing wiring just isn't suitable for use at all.
[+] setr|7 years ago|reply
probably the biggest risk is it simply failing

which would make the whole restoration thing completely pointless, and subject to even more mockery

[+] Tistel|7 years ago|reply
Its amazing that this was just 43 years ago. Thats nothing in the grande scheme of things.
[+] nsxwolf|7 years ago|reply
Oh, people don't like that? I always thought it was neat.
[+] drcode|7 years ago|reply
Hmm... surely, the Hollywood sign would win any contest of "L.A.'s most derided piece of public art"?
[+] psetq|7 years ago|reply
How so? I'd consider the Hollywood sign to be an iconic American landmark and haven't really heard much to the contrary.
[+] gamblor956|7 years ago|reply
It wouldn't even be in the top thousand for public art in LA, especially since it wasn't intended to be "public" or "art" when it was unveiled. (It was originally intended to be temporary signage for a housing development called "Hollywoodland" that failed. Some decades later, the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce paid to restore part of the sign. A few decades after that, it was restored again and has been more or less maintained to that level ever since.)

Top contender usually goes to the light sculptures at the entrance to LAX, or else to the frescoes adorning the sidewalls of the 110 and 10 freeways.

[+] simias|7 years ago|reply
>to deride: to speak of or treat with contempt, mockery, or ridicule; scoff or jeer at

Is the Hollywood sign really the target of that much mockery? Caricature surely but that's not the same thing.

[+] standerman|7 years ago|reply
atlasobscura.com seems to show up an awful lot on HN, and I rarely find the links to be technically relevant or useful, but always full of ads. It would be nice to be able to filter them out
[+] echelon|7 years ago|reply
As a counter point, I love articles posted from Atlas Obscura and enjoy reading them when they pop up on HN.

Not everyone is the same, and I appreciate your point of view as well.

[+] onion2k|7 years ago|reply
I rarely find the links to be technically relevant or useful

Reading articles like this one gives you things to talk about, which makes you someone people are more keen to engage with. That will give you an edge in a lot of interactions but particularly in sales. If you can't sell then your startup will fail. That's why they're relevant.

You need to be able to talk to other people about what they are interested in. That requires broadening your interests. A few articles about things you wouldn't typically read can be very useful.

[+] Washuu|7 years ago|reply
Atlas Obscura is another site I ignore since it requires Javascript for images to load.