[optimusclimb]

Charge me money, for content. Ala NYTimes, WaPo, Wall Street Journal, etc.

Also, I'd say it's a false dichotomy of "monetize" vs. "use every dark pattern and brings-browsers-to-their-knees script".

Countless times I've clicked on a link/article, only to go through this crap, and/or have it bring my browser on a most recent generation iDevice to a crawl, and given up/closed. I'm still happy to look at ads on free content (and yes, every now and then, click on one), provided I can actually see them.

[supernovae]

Does anyone pay for those and do you think the web could survive on paid content?

BTW, these aren't "Dark patterns" - they're industry standards - whether we like it or not. Are users interested in preserving independent media or are they mostly fine just getting what facebook and google think they should get?

I think what a lot of people are ignoring is that users support these terrible sites and that the good ones that don't join these patterns eventually just fade to oblivion

web "Surfers" need to change their behaviors just as much as content creators... if not more so - because the industry is just following the what the readers actually do...

[CaptSpify]

Something can be a "dark pattern" and an industry standard at the same time.

I agree that the consumers should change their behavior, but there aren't a lot of options for supporting good news. I can't say I've ever seen a news site that was good enough that I'd actually pay money for.