Randy and Craig (Taran King and Knight Lightning) did an amazing job with Phrack. It was an honor to write for them, and I almost never see them mentioned when people talk about the zine. The zine, and the St. Louis Summercons, were hugely influential. I'm still friends with a bunch of folks from that scene.
If it weren't for a timely late night phone call from Craig needing some more content for an issue, the Conscience of a Hacker would probably not have been written.
Howdy crap The Mentor itself... your Hacker Manifesto marked me as a kid in the 80s. It gave meaning to my life growing in a remote Mexican city where few people understood about computers.
Jesus and the Mary Chain, the Mentor himself in the flesh.
When I was a senior in college studying Anthropology and subcultures (specifically hacker culture), several of my roommates who were engineers and CS majors told me I absolutely needed to read your essay.
To this day, it's still one of the most influential essays I read about the culture and understanding the ethos of an ethical hacker. After getting involved in the scene in the late 90's, I found out reading your essay was almost a rite of passage.
It's an amazing work that is timeless and still resonates to this day.
Thank you for writing that. Those words spoke deeply to me and many others that wander these halls even so many years on. It is odd to look back on years later and happen across the author.
The same is sort of true of the mid-late '90s Phrack scene; I was skimming through some of the front matter on those issues and noticing how many people in the greets sections were people I'm still in touch with. Of course, this stuff got lucrative for us in a way that I'm not sure it was in the late '80s. But you guys had more fun than we did.
All this BBS talk takes me back to about 10 years ago, when I had a business encounter with a consultant engineer from IBM in Chicago. After our business meeting, we went to lunch and this gentleman dropped me off at my place of work in his car (IIRC, it was a Toyota Avalon with white leather interior). We had some small talk during the short drive - about some of my pet projects at the time and what I was doing outside of work, etc. He was very encouraging and appeared very curious. I appreciated that.
Little did I know at the time that I was in the presence of greatness and driving with a legend. He was Ward Christensen. I was so totally ignorant of his awesomeness that I'm ashamed. And so embarrassed now thinking about how vain I was talking to him about my barely getting my feet wet with Android application development. :$
That was my only encounter with Ward. I think I connected the dots a few months later when I read about him in 2600. (@Ward - If you are reading this, hi!! And my apologies for my ignorance).
I once hired this guy, whom I'd met at a 2600 meet up at Union Station in LA, to work for me at one of the first web-development agencies in California. I had him all set up as a sysadmin doing sysadmin'y things, got him a new SGI machine as requested, sat him in the corner and watched him type away happily, doing web-development/sysadmin'y things.
Little did I know that he was writing his seminal paper in a terminal on the side .. "Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit" has gone on to be one of the most famous of Phrack articles .. if only I'd known, I would've asked to proof-read it first. ;)
> I was so totally ignorant of his awesomeness that I'm ashamed.
I would speculate it's likely it made for a much more interesting conversation for both of you than if you had been aware of his accomplishments. You also got a much more interesting anecdote as a result of that.
FWIW I hadn't heard of him until your comment. I suspect for every one person I have heard of there's at least a hundred I haven't heard of whose accomplishments are no less great.
Unless you are a narcissist, it must really suck to be so famous that you can never have a conversation with anybody in a symmetric fashion.
After reading the "smashing the stack for fun and profit", I got interested in reverse engineering. The most fun tutorial was from lena151[0]. ARTeam had published several papers for beginners and advanced reverse engineers. Deroko who was a member of the ARTeam had published an article about PEB hooking[2] and was sited from phrack[1]. I miss hacking and reverse engineering. I would like to go back to those times if time would allow me to do so. Sometimes, I end up reading this article[3] again and again.
e-zines that were transmitted over dial up modems via BBSes back in the days before WWW took off seemed so deliciously subversive.
One night I came across an e-zine that shared a BBS phone number for my city. I made several attempts before giving up. An hour later cops showed up at my door. It turned out I was phoning a secondary number for 911. I got pranked pretty good!
Much of the early work on buffer overrun exploitation was published in Phrack. The article Brandon Baker and I did for IEEE Security and Privacy had a sidebar on "Nontraditional literature on buffer overruns" that's got some greatest hits like AlephOne’s Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit from 1996 [1] and The Advanced return-into-lib(c) Exploits from 2001 [2]. Over the years, a surprising number of people have told me that this was their favorite part of the article!
"Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit" is the reason why I work with computers nowadays. I don't even work in security - this is the article that made me realise computers are full of wonder.
That article brought the knowledge to the security scenes, but pirates cracking video games have been exploiting that for a while too. Those familiar with Morris internet worm also knew about it. This as I can really was the first place that broke it down where you could learn it yourself without a guide. It's also one of my favorite as I knew about it, but didn't know how to personally craft one till I read that.
Memories come back of the time when Phrack Magazine and digital copies of The Anarchist Cookbook were shared via IPXCOPY.EXE or floppies at 10Base2 LAN parties or other scene gatherings. Interesting ISDN hacks and also ntpwc.c and other things were published in Phrack back then. It's almost like looking at a vintage car magazine now.
The "Paper Feed" section has 2 articles from 2018 and 2 from 2017. The most recent, "20 Years of Escaping the Java Sandbox" [1] is exactly what 16 year old me loved about phrack back in the day.
While we're talking "old skool" hackerdom, does anybody know/remember Voyager, of the "Hacker's Haven" BBS? I spent so many hours on that site back in the mid to late 90's, making the long-distance dial-up call by beige-boxing off a COCOT phone in a gas-station parking lot, in the wee hours of the night, hoping no cops would pull up and wonder what was going on with the super-long phone cable running from my car to the payphone.
For anybody who wasn't around back then, a "beige box" wasn't actually a "box" involving tone generation like a blue box or a red box. It just meant clipping onto the red and green wires in the demarc box and connecting to an RJ-14 plug to plug into a phone. It worked well with COCOT's (Customer Owned Coin Operated Telephones) because the phone line for a COCOT was just a regular line that you could make long distance calls on. The mechanism that made it a pay-phone was all contained inside the phone itself, as opposed to a "telephone company payphone" where the actual line itself was special. Thos were the ones you could use a red-box on, to simulate dropping quarters into the phone.
Read this all the time as a kid. This was the best. Thanks for making my life in the middle of nowhere infinitely more interesting. You showed me what technology really was.
many moons ago, i was able to escape the restricted shell of the first internet provider in my country, type the magical incantation cat etc/passwd and watch the file scroll on my screen. Then panic, exit the shell, make some dumb gopher search for my class. Never felt so alive until i ... for the first time with my girlfriend :-)
Thank you phrack, could not have done it without you!
(i mean the first thing, Phrack was good but not that good!)
I had fun thinking about what the different color 'boxes' were e.g. blue boxes, beige boxes etc. I don't think I ever used a blue box, but I messed with payphones and tapped into landlines pretty easily
Think I can safely say that without Phrack I wouldn't have gotten as into computers as I did and never would have had this successful career that followed.
[+] [-] loydb|7 years ago|reply
If it weren't for a timely late night phone call from Craig needing some more content for an issue, the Conscience of a Hacker would probably not have been written.
[+] [-] xtracto|7 years ago|reply
Thank you :)
[+] [-] at-fates-hands|7 years ago|reply
When I was a senior in college studying Anthropology and subcultures (specifically hacker culture), several of my roommates who were engineers and CS majors told me I absolutely needed to read your essay.
To this day, it's still one of the most influential essays I read about the culture and understanding the ethos of an ethical hacker. After getting involved in the scene in the late 90's, I found out reading your essay was almost a rite of passage.
It's an amazing work that is timeless and still resonates to this day.
[+] [-] SuperPaintMan|7 years ago|reply
I hope life is finding you well!
[+] [-] tptacek|7 years ago|reply
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[+] [-] veeceecee|7 years ago|reply
Little did I know at the time that I was in the presence of greatness and driving with a legend. He was Ward Christensen. I was so totally ignorant of his awesomeness that I'm ashamed. And so embarrassed now thinking about how vain I was talking to him about my barely getting my feet wet with Android application development. :$
That was my only encounter with Ward. I think I connected the dots a few months later when I read about him in 2600. (@Ward - If you are reading this, hi!! And my apologies for my ignorance).
[+] [-] fit2rule|7 years ago|reply
Little did I know that he was writing his seminal paper in a terminal on the side .. "Smashing the Stack for Fun and Profit" has gone on to be one of the most famous of Phrack articles .. if only I'd known, I would've asked to proof-read it first. ;)
(Likewise: hi @AlephOne!)
[+] [-] dpwm|7 years ago|reply
I would speculate it's likely it made for a much more interesting conversation for both of you than if you had been aware of his accomplishments. You also got a much more interesting anecdote as a result of that.
FWIW I hadn't heard of him until your comment. I suspect for every one person I have heard of there's at least a hundred I haven't heard of whose accomplishments are no less great.
Unless you are a narcissist, it must really suck to be so famous that you can never have a conversation with anybody in a symmetric fashion.
[+] [-] e19293001|7 years ago|reply
[0] - https://tuts4you.com/e107_plugins/download/download.php?list...
[1] - http://www.phrack.org/issues/65/10.html
[2] - https://www.exploit-db.com/ezines/kr5hou2zh4qtebqk.onion/ART...
[3] - http://phrack.org/issues/7/3.html
[+] [-] fouc|7 years ago|reply
One night I came across an e-zine that shared a BBS phone number for my city. I made several attempts before giving up. An hour later cops showed up at my door. It turned out I was phoning a secondary number for 911. I got pranked pretty good!
[+] [-] jdp23|7 years ago|reply
[1] https://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=49&a=14
[2] https://www.phrack.org/show.php?p=58&a=4
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[1] http://www.phrack.org/papers/escaping_the_java_sandbox.html
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[+] [-] mindcrime|7 years ago|reply
For anybody who wasn't around back then, a "beige box" wasn't actually a "box" involving tone generation like a blue box or a red box. It just meant clipping onto the red and green wires in the demarc box and connecting to an RJ-14 plug to plug into a phone. It worked well with COCOT's (Customer Owned Coin Operated Telephones) because the phone line for a COCOT was just a regular line that you could make long distance calls on. The mechanism that made it a pay-phone was all contained inside the phone itself, as opposed to a "telephone company payphone" where the actual line itself was special. Thos were the ones you could use a red-box on, to simulate dropping quarters into the phone.
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[+] [-] eb0la|7 years ago|reply
Just found out they also have a website. Enjoy it: http://www.set-ezine.org/
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[+] [-] robarr|7 years ago|reply
Thank you phrack, could not have done it without you! (i mean the first thing, Phrack was good but not that good!)
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[+] [-] emersonrsantos|7 years ago|reply
First time I've read one was 1995 on some BBS.
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[+] [-] gasull|7 years ago|reply
Is there an equivalent today to Phrack?
[+] [-] CalRobert|7 years ago|reply
https://www.alchemistowl.org/pocorgtfo/
[+] [-] dagw|7 years ago|reply
Thank you Phrack.
[+] [-] rootsudo|7 years ago|reply