[nhangen]

There is an ethical difference yes, but it’s still a net negative. We don’t need to kill in order to eat. We just choose to.

[xyzzy123]

It gets ethically weird for me when I contemplate hypothetical pigs that had happy lives but would not have existed if they were not farmed. Kinda Logan’s run? But pigs.

The utilitarian in me wants to see the existence of the pig as an ethical net positive overall.