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paulhilbert | 7 years ago

I wonder why this gets downvoted - seems pretty reasonable to me...

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BlackFly|7 years ago

I imagine because the post is not pedantic but is just wrong. If you want to be pedantic and correct, the symbol 0 represents a real number, an integer, and other numbers. The symbol 0 is not a cardinal (counting) number. Some people consider the natural numbers to be either the cardinal numbers or the whole numbers which include 0. So some people consider 0 to not be a natural number.

As a mathematical entity it doesn't represent the absence of anything. It is just a symbol that has certain properties associated with it. There isn't a hole in the real number line where 0 should be: there is a number there.

It isn't pedantic to insist that 0 isn't a number, it is equivocal to do so. In most contexts it does not need to be treated like a special value. Temperature measured in degrees is an example where you don't need to treat 0 specially, at least not more than other values...

pjc50|7 years ago

It's a rather odd argument and it falls apart as soon as you ask about 0 Kelvin.

thaumasiotes|7 years ago

> it falls apart as soon as you ask about 0 Kelvin

Huh? The whole point of Kelvins is that their zero point is an actual 0 value. That's why Kelvins are a unit and °C aren't.

Q: An object's temperature is 20°C. The object's temperature increases by 10%. What is the new temperature of the object?

A: 49°C.

rusk|7 years ago

Except when you take into account that 0 Kelvin actually is theoretically "nothing" with regards to temperature. It's not a floating point, it's an absolute.