[Carlton87]

The USA doesn't have to worry about the guillotines, we are armed to the tooth where I'm from.

A simple fact is that all 7 billion people can't live like upper middle class Americans, it's impossible. Why not have one place in the world that a huge number of people sit at the top?

I guess the major difference is I see myself as an American Citizen and not a Global Citizen.

[jgh]

> A simple fact is that all 7 billion people can't live like upper middle class Americans, it's impossible. Why not have one place in the world that a huge number of people sit at the top?

Because winning the birth lottery gets you to the top, otherwise if you're from somewhere else in the world...good luck.

Of course 7 billion people can't live like upper middle class americans. Upper middle class americans are going to have to bring their lifestyle down to a sustainable level.

We have a myriad of problems at this moment in time, some of them existential. I have very little sympathy for people who think we should maintain the status quo in the face of these problems.

[Carlton87]

Wish in one hand, shit in the other, see which one fills up first.

I don't see that class giving up lifestyle changes to prop up the third world and if you try to take it, in the south, they are armed. Which is the reason our 2nd Amendment exists.

[harimau777]

I'm not sure there are good alternatives in the US. If you want a decent job, a family, and to live somewhere that that is progressive and not boring, then you pretty much have to make upper middle class money.