[sakri]

Thanks for taking the time, that is an illuminating point.

I remember spending countless hours arguing with someone who genuinely believed 'greed is good', a total waste of time, no progress whatsoever on either side.

Thinking about it now, my sparring partners attitude makes some sense, if 'advancing our material condition' is indeed the end game. It's like two engineers arguing about implementation details, without realizing they are designing different apps.

Buzzwords like 'Goal Oriented' or 'Understand your clients motivation' fly around, but your point gives them more dimension. Thanks.