[mgazzer]

Is it hard in this day in age to understand the difference of being part of bringing a product to life versus pre-ordering a product? Apple has set the bar so high that people turn off their brains.

[leereeves]

"Being part of bringing a product to life" is usually something you're paid to do, not something you pay to do.

Compared to being an employee collecting a salary or an investor collecting a share of the profit, Kickstarter is a terrible deal.

Not a pre-order indeed. Not even a pre-order. Worse than a pre-order.