Thanks for staying away! If you’re not interested in caring about our privacy and personal data concerns, you‘re very welcome to shove your products up to where the sun doesn’t shine...
These kinds of responses are unhelpful. Yes, data protection is incredibly important. That doesn't mean that GDPR as written is a well-done regulation - in point of fact its insanely complicated and its pretty much impossible to know whether or not you comply, even if you store zero data about users. It also doesn't mean that people who don't want to deal with GDPR don't care about privacy. Tarring and feathering someone for such things is lazy and unfair.
I disagree. I'm not sure what you've read about GPDR, but see the link I posted above. If you read the ICO guidance and still think it's insanely complicated, I'm not sure what to suggest because by that yardstick any legal matter is going to be insanely complicated and you'd be saying the same about any legislation. Do you have an example of any legislation that you'd say is better?
>its pretty much impossible to know whether or not you comply, even if you store zero data about users.
Can you explain how you store Zero data but you are not sure? Are you referring at the fact that you include third party code or use third party services?
The fact that the laws are not simple is because they need to define things very specifically to make it impossible for "clever" people to interpret them different then the "spirit oft he law"
Obviously, the number of people who think that GDPR and its rollout has gone perfectly is probably zero.
I think the reason there's so much defensiveness about GDPR is because it is legitimately a rare and valuable victory of data privacy advocates. From that perspective, the smug "just don't do business in the EU" meme might seems like a sentiment that ignores that victory so much that many probably assume it was born out of hostility to data privacy advocacy.
So the post i replied to was helpful/constructive?
I am not even thinking that GDPR is implemented/written very greatly, and i was fearing too that it will mainly help to put small businesses out of any product category where storing even just an Email address is necessary(eg have an login and want to enable users to restoa forgotten password) while big companies have their lawyers to allow them keep abusing our data on the edge of legal possibilities and not to our favour...
So Im not yet sure if having no GDPR is better or worse than having none...
Just, simply saying if you have data protection laws i avoid your market without any detailed reason or proposal how to improve doesn’t bring us forward...
Yes!
There you can let yourself get sued for a few millions because you didn’t mark a coffee cup as containing hot stuff or didn’t write in the usage instructions of a microwave oven that it’s unsuited to dry a cat after bathing... much simpler, clearer, and safer market there...
Shebanator|7 years ago
frereubu|7 years ago
I disagree. I'm not sure what you've read about GPDR, but see the link I posted above. If you read the ICO guidance and still think it's insanely complicated, I'm not sure what to suggest because by that yardstick any legal matter is going to be insanely complicated and you'd be saying the same about any legislation. Do you have an example of any legislation that you'd say is better?
simion314|7 years ago
Can you explain how you store Zero data but you are not sure? Are you referring at the fact that you include third party code or use third party services?
The fact that the laws are not simple is because they need to define things very specifically to make it impossible for "clever" people to interpret them different then the "spirit oft he law"
allemagne|7 years ago
I think the reason there's so much defensiveness about GDPR is because it is legitimately a rare and valuable victory of data privacy advocates. From that perspective, the smug "just don't do business in the EU" meme might seems like a sentiment that ignores that victory so much that many probably assume it was born out of hostility to data privacy advocacy.
hennsen|7 years ago
I am not even thinking that GDPR is implemented/written very greatly, and i was fearing too that it will mainly help to put small businesses out of any product category where storing even just an Email address is necessary(eg have an login and want to enable users to restoa forgotten password) while big companies have their lawyers to allow them keep abusing our data on the edge of legal possibilities and not to our favour...
So Im not yet sure if having no GDPR is better or worse than having none... Just, simply saying if you have data protection laws i avoid your market without any detailed reason or proposal how to improve doesn’t bring us forward...
fixermark|7 years ago
hennsen|7 years ago