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throwaway218649 | 7 years ago

> Then what are people taking about here?

It is instructive to read Marx to answer this question. How much time do working people need to work every day to earn enough to reproduce themselves? College education is now expected for many jobs (working people reproducing themselves means the next generation having access to similar jobs). How big of a fraction of median income does a median college degree cost? What about healthcare, rent/home prices? Food and clothing prices have declined a lot, but the other prices have risen to a much greater proportion of median income. How many people are now working two or more "part-time" jobs for a total of more than 40 hours a week?

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manfredo|7 years ago

I'm more than happy to answer your questions, at least insofar as you are inquiring about facts:

> How much time do working people need to work every day to earn enough to reproduce themselves?

The Economist article linked above says that adjusted for inflation and taxes, less than one fifth as many people struggle to do so as compared to 40 years ago. Sure, it's valid to say that the percentage of people that experience that struggle (~3-4%) is still a figure that is unacceptably high. But it has been a drastic reduction from what it was four decades earlier (over 15%).

> College education is now expected for many jobs (working people reproducing themselves means the next generation having access to similar jobs).

A strange observation to make, seeing as the non-college educated reproduce at a greater rate than those who do.[1]

> What about healthcare, rent/home prices?

I mention that those are exceptions to the overall trend, but also explain that those are due to well known reasons: a large ageing generation, and an unwillingness to build housing in many growing metro areas. They are not cause by inequality, though good arguments can be made that they exacerbate it.

> Food and clothing prices have declined a lot, but the other prices have risen to a much greater proportion of median income.

Sure, some things like housing have gotten more expensive. But plenty of others have gotten cheaper. In aggregate, costs are going down. That's what the Economist article I linked above explains.

> How many people are now working two or more "part-time" jobs for a total of more than 40 hours a week?

People are spending less time on work on average.[2]

1. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/97facts/edu2birt.htm

2. https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/520f835b6bb3f7730d000...

ntsplnkv2|7 years ago

Average time worked is a terrible metric to use without context. Can you provide the context of the chart?

It could be argued that people are working less because of increases in automation and more schooling and a switch from shift jobs to non-shift jobs. Reportedly someone on salary would say they work 40 hours or would be assumed - we know the reality is different than that.