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QML | 7 years ago

Firefox just doesn’t have enough advantages yet that would convince someone comfortable with Chrome to switch over. While privacy is an ever growing concern, it isn’t a strong enough feature for most people.

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rayvy|7 years ago

> While privacy is an ever growing concern, it isn’t a strong enough feature for most people.

At the end of the day, this is the end-all-be-all argument to the Facebook and Google duopoly. People just don't give a goddamn (excuse the language) about their data - they simply do.not.care.

I believe my generation (Y), and possibly a few after us (X, etc), will be known as the generation(s) who didn't think privacy/data was that big of a deal - until one day it was.

We are the guinea pig.

MarsAscendant|7 years ago

I don't think fatalism is the philosophy to adopt here.

mr_custard|7 years ago

I switched because Firefox has Multi-Account Containers, which was extremely compelling.

https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/containers

renholder|7 years ago

The Temporary Containers was a nice add-on built on top of that.[0] While it's a pain in the aspect of cookie-use across domains (like logging into Azure), it's other features out-weigh the initial nuissance - like automatic deletion of the container, as soon as the last one for that particular domain is closed. All of this is, of course, configurable.

This wasn't meant to be a plug, just a happenstance of "if you like 'x', have you seen 'y' based on it?". =]

[0] - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/temporary-con...

Lorkki|7 years ago

They're a nice feature, although after a long while of trying, I ended up using just the Facebook container. The main container extension felt like too much work in regular browsing, and the tracking protection seems otherwise adequate when combined with uBlock.

Sadly, Mozilla also seem to promote containers as an alternative to user profiles, while they're nowhere near as full-featured - sharing saved logins and bookmarks between my "personal" and "work" containers is almost never desireable. Managing and switching profiles, on the other hand, is virtually unchanged since the Netscape Communicator days.

antoineMoPa|7 years ago

Well now Firefox will have ad blocking plugins that works and Chrome will not.

klardotsh|7 years ago

We'll see how long it lasts.

Firefox has mostly strived, in the Quantum era, to stay mostly-ish compatible with Google's interpretation of WebExtensions, from what I can tell.

tyfon|7 years ago

A major problem is also that google websites run like crap in firefox. Gmail takes 20 seconds to load and don't get me started on youtube studio. Even the "feedback" button is broken in firefox so I can't even report the bugs I find.

I'm at the point of installing chromium just to be able to manage my videos, but I refuse to give in.

yogthos|7 years ago

I find Google websites run like shit in Chrome too, just slightly less shit than in FF.

criddell|7 years ago

Plus Chrome just works better for a lot of sites. That might be because the site isn't properly coded, but users don't care. They just want something that works and more often than not, that's Chrome.

My main browser is Firefox, but I have to switch over to Chrome more often than I would like. Electron is also based on Chromium, isn't it? IMHO, the rise of Electron just reinforces Chromium's status and I think Microsoft is going to accelerate that trend (I'm guessing MS adopted Chromium because of Electron).

Solvitieg|7 years ago

I don't know about "a lot of sites". Very few, I'd say.

Other web developers may want to chime in but I rarely have cross-browser problems between Firefox and Chrome. I can't recall the last one.

The only time I encounter a problem with Firefox is looking at people's codepens where they're using webkit only prefixes or a draft API.

aylmao|7 years ago

> IMHO, the rise of Electron just reinforces Chromium's status

+1. I'm hopeful of Servo. So far it (ServoShell) also a good 50MB smaller than Electron which would be a very good reason for developers to switch. It'll all depend on API compatibility at the time of release I guess.

feanaro|7 years ago

Interestingly, this is the opposite of my experience. I browse solely on Firefox and don't encounter sites which only work on Chrome at all (at least as far as I can remember right now). I wonder what's different between our browsing habits that's causing this.

S4M|7 years ago

What are the advantages of Chrome over Firefox?

xfitm3|7 years ago

You get to view ads, apparently.

xioxox|7 years ago

Translation is the only thing I open it for. The Google Translate website doesn't work as well as the real time functionality in Chrome.

albru123|7 years ago

Firefox does not stack tabs like Chrome does and does not load all the restored session tabs at once either. Aren't these dumb design decisions enough to switch to a product where people actually think about how it's going to be used?

Arelius|7 years ago

> does not load all the restored session tabs at once either

As someone who always has too many tabs open, I consider this a plus.

I do however think you can disable this in about:config : browser.sessionstore.restore_on_demand

jinnko|7 years ago

Laying all the trans at one cripples my core i8 system for some time. Firefox's lazy tab loading is a much better user experience. Together with TreeStyle Tabs and the recent multi-container add-on, Firefox is just a better experience.

teraflop|7 years ago

> and does not load all the restored session tabs at once either

For what it's worth, Chrome stopped doing this for me in a recent update (I think version 71).

stuartd|7 years ago

.. and Chrome doesn't have container tabs, which for me are a killer feature.