[cjCamel]

> I think paid leave is just plain immoral. It is up to the parent to evaluate how much they care for their child vs foregone salaries.

This is delusional or dangerous thinking. Are you an ultra privileged & sheltered young man? You do realise that even if a parent chooses to work, they have to pay someone for childcare?

[conanbatt]

Quite the opposite, form a very unsheltered life. It is the sheltered people that want to get paid leave, which is why the highest income workers are the ones that get the most paid leave of all.

> You do realise that even if a parent chooses to work, they have to pay someone for childcare?

That is an argument against paid leave: if a worker takes up the "nanny job" for their own son, they are capturing 100% of the value they do. No need to pay them twice for it.

[cjCamel]

> It is the sheltered people that want to get paid leave

The sheltered people in your life. Are they the ones that have mortgages?