[ziont]

and takes forever to load on a typical cellular network in Canada.

Fuck PWAs, I've seen some retailers who ditched it because it ended up hurting their conversions.

Certain demographics DO NOT want to see stare at fucking blank page with grey rectangles because it offers 'superior customer experience essential'. They want webpages that load fast, they don't even give a shit about Responsive designs.

Yeah, if the entire world was on 5g already, but even then, people simply don't trust PWAs vs apps from the Google or Apple store. In their minds, its safer because a large corporation is "looking after" them.

PWA and AMP are a dud, and the lack of adoption shows this.

[untog]

Seems like you're confusing a number of things here. Progressive web apps can be cached offline and load instantly. They typically have smaller download sizes than native apps. There's zero reason for a PWA to take longer to load than a web page because a PWA is a web page. Perhaps your complaint is with Single Page Apps? That's a legitimate complaint, but doesn't really have a lot to do with PWAs.

> they don't even give a shit about Responsive designs.

Users don't know what "responsive design is". But conversion stats for sites that have a specific mobile layout vs ones where you're pinch-and-zooming constantly show that users are a lot more productive on sites with a mobile view.

[ziont]

The first experience is crucial, according to Google 51% of your visitors will leave if they don't see content within the first 5 seconds.

Then you tell people, yeah but its okay to do this the first time, then the second time they come to your PWA, it will load super fast!

Except it's not at all fast because it turns out cellular network is spotty so not everyone experiences/reports the same experience, it turns jaded users who feel discriminated because they don't have a thousand dollar phone that can render their PWA jank free.

There's an Application in PWA somewhere I'm sure of it.

You are right about conversion rates but I was specifically talking about online shoppers for a specific niche to demonstrate the extreme case where people are fine with what they have and rather not see changes they need to . relearn.

[reaperducer]

Progressive web apps can be cached offline and load instantly

They only load instantly once they've been cached. Until then, it's Grey Rectangle City, and the user moves on.

[mises]

> Yeah, if the entire world was on 5g already

Even if the world was, I still wouldn't like it. Lightweight webpages are infinitely superior. Data is still expensive, particularly for those of us who can't afford unlimited.