The results are just incredible. The depth of the project is very deep. Case in point, chess+clock yields hourglasker (hourglass & Lasker). Lasker was a German chess champion, well known in chess circles but the average person would have no idea who he is.
I wonder if this is using wikipedia or dbpedia to walk a graph and find words to stick together. That's the only way I could think of doing this.
That's really cool, but as I described above, my experience was different. The phoneme matching is really impressive but the word selection functionality seems pretty weak.
I had better luck with "large" and "cat" which gave me "colossalot", as in "colossal ocelot", which is a real winner.
However, I don't want to dismiss the hard work that went into this tool, despite my criticisms. It's very, very cool.
That doesn't quite do him justice - Emanuel Lasker was world champion for 27 (!) years, 1894-1921, a record not likely ever to be surpassed. And a mathematician (e.g. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskerian_ring ) and fine writer. In fact I learnt to play from Lasker's Manual of Chess. It's very poetic in places, e.g.
On the chessboard, lies and hypocrisy do not survive long. The creative combination lays bare the presumption of a lie; the merciless fact, culminating in the checkmate, contradicts the hypocrite.
edit: I guess you knew that if you were trying chess + clock hehe.
"existential" + "angst" yields some great results, including despairitual (despair/spiritual), tormentological (torment/ontological), and sartrevail (sartre/travail)
A think the right way to test such a tool is to start with a list of known portmanteaus or rhymes, and check if the tool successfully finds them, and with what precision and recall.
Just having people plug in words and find things that they find interesting is going to result in people feeling it's better than it actually is. I tried a few examples, and while some of the outputs seemed "OK", they missed what seemed like obvious puns that I know exist in the lexicon because I was able to massage the inputs until it found them.
I think the first step would be to use a tool for word selection that does a better job finding actual synonyms instead of "words that are vaguely the same".
The phoneme matching aspect of it obviously works very well. I think if you had more control over the words it would use, you'd get better results. See my comment about "politician" above. I've repeated tried combinations with the word politician in them, and none of the synonyms I would expect to show up ever showed up.
This is a really cool implementation, and I'm impressed with the examples given.
So, I did what every obnoxious person would do and put in "stupid" and "politician", but I didn't get any real good results, mostly because it didn't use any of the synonyms for "politician" that I would expect... like president, senator, congressman, governor, prime minister (would it even deal with compound words?) or even the most obvious: politician!
Instead it used these words: moralist, orator, critic, rabbi, teacher, entrepreneur, philanthropist, leader (OK, that one is good), economist, attorney, prelate, administrator, constituent, assemblyman, and assemblywoman. Everyone of these was either not really a kind of politician, or a pretty obscure word.
Now some of these portmanteaus were pretty clever through the matching of phoneme clusters, and not just exact ones, but similar ones, and that's what's really cool about this tool, but ultimately I couldn't get what I was looking for!
At the very least it should use the words you entered!
Nevertheless, I definitely want to play with this more.
So, to the authors I'd say they've built something really cool and I'm looking forward to seeing how it can be improved.
[+] [-] misnome|7 years ago|reply
"Pointless" "Meeting" -> Morondezvous
I think it just found the perfect word for my daily life.
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[+] [-] binarymax|7 years ago|reply
I wonder if this is using wikipedia or dbpedia to walk a graph and find words to stick together. That's the only way I could think of doing this.
[+] [-] ConceptJunkie|7 years ago|reply
I had better luck with "large" and "cat" which gave me "colossalot", as in "colossal ocelot", which is a real winner.
However, I don't want to dismiss the hard work that went into this tool, despite my criticisms. It's very, very cool.
[+] [-] yesenadam|7 years ago|reply
That doesn't quite do him justice - Emanuel Lasker was world champion for 27 (!) years, 1894-1921, a record not likely ever to be surpassed. And a mathematician (e.g. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laskerian_ring ) and fine writer. In fact I learnt to play from Lasker's Manual of Chess. It's very poetic in places, e.g.
On the chessboard, lies and hypocrisy do not survive long. The creative combination lays bare the presumption of a lie; the merciless fact, culminating in the checkmate, contradicts the hypocrite.
edit: I guess you knew that if you were trying chess + clock hehe.
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[+] [-] hliyan|7 years ago|reply
Paper (just 2 pages): https://nips2018creativity.github.io/doc/entendrepreneur.pdf
[+] [-] throway88989898|7 years ago|reply
Againyway... that's odd https://www.punchlinedesign.net/pun_generator/%21+%21
[+] [-] yesenadam|7 years ago|reply
whenyway suckordingly anyhowever whenyhow https://www.punchlinedesign.net/pun_generator/!+.
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[+] [-] headmelted|7 years ago|reply
"tarmackerel"
I am complete.
[+] [-] TadaScientist|7 years ago|reply
Britain and exit yields: Briturn - I think the signs have spoken
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[+] [-] alexanderdmitri|7 years ago|reply
timid + programmer => softwary (software/wary)
[+] [-] TadaScientist|7 years ago|reply
spaghetti + mom yields:
grandpasta mommytball spagheteenager spagheteen fettuccineice
I think I found my next online nickname: "grandpasta flash"
[+] [-] ggggtez|7 years ago|reply
Just having people plug in words and find things that they find interesting is going to result in people feeling it's better than it actually is. I tried a few examples, and while some of the outputs seemed "OK", they missed what seemed like obvious puns that I know exist in the lexicon because I was able to massage the inputs until it found them.
[+] [-] ConceptJunkie|7 years ago|reply
The phoneme matching aspect of it obviously works very well. I think if you had more control over the words it would use, you'd get better results. See my comment about "politician" above. I've repeated tried combinations with the word politician in them, and none of the synonyms I would expect to show up ever showed up.
[+] [-] ConceptJunkie|7 years ago|reply
So, I did what every obnoxious person would do and put in "stupid" and "politician", but I didn't get any real good results, mostly because it didn't use any of the synonyms for "politician" that I would expect... like president, senator, congressman, governor, prime minister (would it even deal with compound words?) or even the most obvious: politician!
Instead it used these words: moralist, orator, critic, rabbi, teacher, entrepreneur, philanthropist, leader (OK, that one is good), economist, attorney, prelate, administrator, constituent, assemblyman, and assemblywoman. Everyone of these was either not really a kind of politician, or a pretty obscure word.
Now some of these portmanteaus were pretty clever through the matching of phoneme clusters, and not just exact ones, but similar ones, and that's what's really cool about this tool, but ultimately I couldn't get what I was looking for!
At the very least it should use the words you entered!
Nevertheless, I definitely want to play with this more.
So, to the authors I'd say they've built something really cool and I'm looking forward to seeing how it can be improved.
[+] [-] deegles|7 years ago|reply