[cheath]

SF has a population density of 18,679 per square mile. NYC has 27,000. There is plenty of room, you'd just have to scale everything along with it.

Also, for what it's worth, > population density = < net pollution. mass transit etc. are great optimizations of resources. these humans already exist - it's just a matter of where they exist.

[stcredzero]

SF has a population density of 18,679 per square mile. NYC has 27,000. There is plenty of room, you'd just have to scale everything along with it.

The problem isn't space. It's NIMBY. It's groupthink disconnected from reality.

[throwawaysea]

NIMBY is a pejorative, and I think this sort of labeling is not conducive to honest conversation.

The truth is that people have different wants/needs. Not everyone wants to live in a high-density megalopolis. Many want a smaller, slower-paced life, with more breathing room. And those who have that and prefer it, don't want to lose it in favor of accommodating others - which is a very rational viewpoint. As such I don't think it is fair to paint it as 'disconnected from reality'.

[cheath]

well, that I completely agree with. :)

[jelliclesfarm]

Reality is self interest.