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Talkshow – Team videos in non-real-time

113 points| middle1 | 7 years ago |talkshow.team

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[+] fookyong|7 years ago|reply
Hi everyone. Founder here. I'm flattered that this popped up on HN. I'm a long-time lurker and browse multiple times a day but seldom post.

For some context, you guys are looking at an MVP. It took me a month to build this. The marketing site was done in 2 hours (today, fuelled by coffee). I'm bootstrapping after leaving my corporate job last year.

Not trying to make excuses, but I think a lot of questions can simply be answered with "it's one month of work, by one dude, and it launched today" :)

It's live now. That's the easy part over with - the hard stuff begins now!

[+] bfdm|7 years ago|reply
Congrats!

Something I was looking for that you could work towards adding is a demo video showing how this might be used / what the experience looks like. I know I can sign up for free to try, but I don't even know what I'm signing up for.

[+] huhtenberg|7 years ago|reply
> I'm flattered that this popped up on HN.

Erm. Who is "middle1" then and why did they post this as "Show HN"?

[+] tamasnet|7 years ago|reply
That's awesome! A similar landing page would take me 2 days, I'be agonizing over every detail, and the result wouldn't be half as good. Well done!
[+] OJFord|7 years ago|reply
No certificate / unknown issuer causes big scare page in FF by the way.

Oh and then even if I continue, corporate DNS is blocking you due to "security threat".

[+] _31|7 years ago|reply
Great job launching! Simple but effective landing page, I look forward to seeing the product evolve.
[+] finchisko|7 years ago|reply
I like the idea, but it's targeted for extroverted people, probably more for marketers and bizz in general, rather than programmers. Introverts like me, will always prefer text conversation over recording myself. Also text is searchable where video is not.
[+] mosselman|7 years ago|reply
I agree, but targeting those kinds of people is fine I think. Most of my colleagues eat lunch together, but many programmers (my direct colleagues) prefer to lunch in front of their computers. This is typical for many more technical people I think.

In contrast, the other day when I went over to our marketing department I walked in on them practicing the dance moves of some Elvis video together.

I am not saying that either is better, I am just saying that these differences exist and that is fine.

[+] mwcampbell|7 years ago|reply
Text is also universally accessible, including for people with disabilities (e.g. deaf, blind, and for the recording side, people with speech impediments).
[+] loceng|7 years ago|reply
There's another product, can't remember it's name at the moment, with similar concept - however they also highlight screen capturing. Perhaps in the case of those who are more introverted or shy, or not feeling confident being on camera, can simply be doing a screen capture of the product - and then a voice over to share what was done, challenges, faced, etc.
[+] giancarlostoro|7 years ago|reply
> Also text is searchable where video is not.

Transcripts could help there.

[+] kohanz|7 years ago|reply
It's an interesting idea, but I have a tough time with the premise that people will choose to record a video of themselves for everyday asynchronous communication rather than type a message. There are situations were video or audio deliver more value than text, but what are those situations and are they enough to become a team's main mode of communication? I'm skeptical.
[+] rficcaglia|7 years ago|reply
Like you I would never think of using this but then I asked my kids and they looked at me quite as a benevolent advanced alien race might look down upon us: there there old man, no wonder your world is so tedious...no one writes their ideas down anymore...video, poor soul, is the only way we do things now.

I suppose I did something long ago when my parents told me to write home and I said they could use my PC and modem and use compuserve.

Sigh.

[+] Gracana|7 years ago|reply
I know exactly the sort of person who would send me a video instead of a text message, and I am glad that (right now) they can't.
[+] giancarlostoro|7 years ago|reply
You can type a message and not work at the same time, or you can record yourself whilst writing code / doing other tasks as ideas come alive as you speak. I think it's beneficial. I guess it depends on who is using it and how. There's always that one person who hates any tools the company provides to attempt to aide productivity.
[+] tvladeck|7 years ago|reply
Not enough to be the _main_ mode of communication, but definitely an important part of my team’s remote communications. I run www.gradientmetrics.com, and we’re a (very small) distributed team. We often do screencasts with voiceovers to show how we’re thinking of implementing something, what we think the outline of the deliverable should be, etc., etc. This can be _a lot_ easier to do with a video screencast than it is to type out. We typically do this either with a QuickTime screencast or with the person recording a solo Zoom conference with screen share, and uploading to Vimeo. If there was something that cut that workflow down and had some other features, we’d consider it.
[+] mft_|7 years ago|reply
This was my initial reaction - it feels a little bit like the option to send short voice messages via iMessage on iPhone, rather than typing. I've never used that feature because it doesn't seem to offer the same convenience factors that text messages offer - especially the ability to compose and consume them in any environment, irrespective of noise (or quiet), companions, and location. Kind of one step forwards, two steps back.

None of this is insurmountable, but I wonder if it will cause inertia in experimentation and uptake?

Good luck, either way - love the initiative the founder has shown. :)

[+] chrisweekly|7 years ago|reply
Agreed about "main mode of communication", but training and onboarding come to mind as strong use cases. (shrug)
[+] lowestlatency|7 years ago|reply
Why use this when I can record a video from photobooth and upload it to Slack, where all majority of team conversation already happens for the majority of tech companies with remote workers?

Cool idea but doesn't need a separate app.

[+] fredley|7 years ago|reply
"For a Linux user, you can already build such a system yourself quite trivially by getting an FTP account, mounting it locally with curlftpfs, and then using SVN or CVS on the mounted filesystem. From Windows or Mac, this FTP account could be accessed through built-in software."
[+] tarr11|7 years ago|reply
I have never seen a person do such a thing on Slack.
[+] roasm|7 years ago|reply
I believe what I really want is this to be a feature of Slack. Or an integrated 3rd party product.
[+] nsaje|7 years ago|reply
Great idea! Some feedback:

- Too much info required to start (you should streamline signup, job title shouldn't be mandatory IMO)

- Creating a new message should be fast! Meaning:

   - title, body & content should be optional, why can't I just send a video?

   - clicking Save should automatically upload video - right now video is ignored if Save is clicked mid-recording
[+] bryanlarsen|7 years ago|reply
Zulip has the only sane threading model among chat clients. Call it a topic rather than a title, but it absolutely should be required IMO.
[+] anitil|7 years ago|reply
Re Job title - I think this is actually a great idea to filter out tire kickers. Obviously you can just fake it, but email plus job title is a pretty powerful combo.
[+] subsubsub|7 years ago|reply
For context yongfook is one of the origional 'digital nomads' from before people started calling themselves that with a straight face. He did the excellent opensourcefood.com and i suspect he has more of an idea of what makes a good product than the majority of clichéd responses on this thread.
[+] tomglynch|7 years ago|reply
Love the idea and would have helped me in many remote work situations. Could also be good for documentation.

However, from the home page I cannot determine what this really provides over recording a video and sending via slack, telegram, or other methods of chat - I mean, i guess it will allow you to label and comment and put the videos in a hierarchy, but anything else?

[+] fookyong|7 years ago|reply
Hi Tom, nope you've pretty much got the gist of the MVP feature set right there.

This V1 allows you to set up channels, post threads and hierarchical comments, all with (or without) videos attached that you can record through your browser or phone. There's also a "play all" button that allows you to sit back and watch all videos in a thread in succession.

Discussion was an obvious place to start but I'll be looking into other areas next. For example presentation / persuasion - how do you present a deck and convince a remote team in non-real-time? Just blasting an email with an attachment never gets the point across properly.

Hope this sort of explains where my head is at!

[+] dmonn|7 years ago|reply
So do Slack threads with videos in them.

Or a #standup channel where people send in videos, that's what we do.

[+] bogle|7 years ago|reply
I think the medium, that you're supposed to be using video by default rather than text by default, would encourage a team or company to start recording more and tapping at the keyboard less.

I'd compare it to the premise in The Expanse books where there's almost always a light delay for communication so people record video messages by default. When they are on a ship together then they default to audio only. Text is possible in both cases but its bandwidth saving feature isn't required. Now we don't need to save bandwidth anymore perhaps video makes more sense.

Also, if you are a remote worker then playing videos isn't going to annoy an open office full of collegues.

[+] 890622|7 years ago|reply
What I'd like to see (which would likely make me use it) is an integration inside of Gmail. I click one button to record and then I send that email. The no 1 value for me would be that it's much faster than writing. And it's also easier to talk while walking to the subway than to write. So create that and I'm in!
[+] whatabackend|7 years ago|reply
Spent like 30 seconds trying to click the 35 second video on the home page trying to see the video with the cute girl or any of the links on the page image.. boy that was disappointing
[+] landmark3|7 years ago|reply
team videos...not a single video on the homepage :(
[+] paul1664|7 years ago|reply
If ever there was a product that demanded an explainer video on the homepage... this is it.
[+] fookyong|7 years ago|reply
I agree, it's pretty high up on my list of post-launch things to improve.
[+] VvR-Ox|7 years ago|reply
This is a perfect example for software that tries to solve a problem that doesn't exist.

It can be done with whatever: - record video (notebook / smartphone / ...) - send / share / embed into some other software (messenger / wiki / ...)

You are obviously good at marketing stuff (to people who don't know better) and monetizing stuff that is basically free.

That cries for an award with a title like "silver ferengi medal" ;-)

[+] dang|7 years ago|reply
This comment breaks the site guidelines, first by crossing into personal attack (please don't!), and also arguably by breaking this one:

"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something."

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[+] terhechte|7 years ago|reply
There's also https://standups.io which has been on the market for over a year, has traction, lots of cool features, an iOS app an Android app, and Slack integration.
[+] RootKitBeerCat|7 years ago|reply
There’s also... just sending video files back and forth via SMS, Slack, Email, Facebook, Google Photos, or shared iCloud albums.

But this service is free so that’s a big plus to just give it the old “try”!