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LanguageGamer | 6 years ago

From a business perspective, the volatility of Silver's models seem like a feature - they enhance the drama / sensationalism of election coverage. One week, he's telling me candidate X will likely win, the next week it's candidate Y, and I'm on the edge of my seat.

If Silver really believed these probabilities were correct, he should be willing make bets with these odds, otherwise his incentives are distorted.

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et2o|6 years ago

Nate Silver's business' reputation (538) is predicated on making accurate predictions. He certainly has "skin in the game."

In fact, perhaps his entire livelihood.

throwawaymath|6 years ago

> If Silver really believed these probabilities were correct, he should be willing make bets with these odds, otherwise his incentives are distorted.

Yes, the "skin in the game" argument. That is Nassim Taleb's calling card. Personally, I consider it a little unreasonable to expect people to literally put their money where their mouth is every time they make a forecast.

dictum|6 years ago

It's a kind of ad hoc censitary suffrage. One can only put possessions on the line if they have them, and the greater one's possessions, the greater their perceived "skin".

jandrese|6 years ago

Isn't that just new polling data being introduced into the model? It seems disingenuous to say Nate Silver is being sensationalist when he's applying fresh new data to his models and seeing changes in the outcomes.

chrismanfrank|6 years ago

Yes, this is the source of the disagreement. Silver, I think, probably gets the math. But his aim is to entertain.

Taleb's aim is something like predictive rigor. God knows why he cares about Silver. I think everyone gets that Silver is doing entertainment.

jarcane|6 years ago

A hell of a lot of people in 2016 sure as shit didn't.

Funny how he's now "just entertainment" after such a public and embarrassing misfire.