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monokrome | 6 years ago

This is pretty dope, but I'm terrified about the fact that Firefox lets it take over Ctrl+L, Ctrl+1, or any other way (that I can find, at least) of breaking out of Vim with a keyboard aside from closing the tab with Ctrl+W - which is even more terrifying since I use that in Vim a ton, too :O

...but this is pretty cool :D

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aasasd|6 years ago

The actual issue is that Windows and Linux don't properly use a ‘super’ key―while the ‘Win’ key is sitting there uselessly.

Ironically, MS' own ‘ergonomic’ (cough) keyboards have gigantic Win keys, right under the thumbs which are the strongest digits. These keys are great to use on Mac, it's an eye-opener as to how the historical keyboard mutations ended up in just the wrong way for two platforms (and for Emacs).

I could also say some things about the nonsensical shape of keyboards and the moronic replication of the typewriters' staggered key layout...

the_pwner224|6 years ago

> The actual issue is that Windows and Linux don't properly use a ‘super’ key―while the ‘Win’ key is sitting there uselessly.

Some people do use the super key. I have it bound to a huge number of actions (WASD to switch workspaces, Alt+WASD to move window to adjacent workspaces, C to close window, X to pause/unpause media, Z to show workspace overview, tab to switch between workspaces like alt-tab does for windows, P and ; to invert colors, F and T to control window tiling, / to bring up the dropdown terminal, and the 4x4 grid from '6' to '.' to go to one of my 16 workspaces).

It would be a shame if applications started using 'super' in their keybindings - having a key that is effectively globally reserved for user-configurable actions is very useful. There are no worries about conflicting keybindings when you use super; the same cannot be said of keybindings that use ctrl or even ctrl+alt+letter - for example, many IDEs use ctrl+alt+letter to do stuff, which would mess with global user-configured shortcuts. Perhaps the position could be optimized though.

btym|6 years ago

>The actual issue is that Windows and Linux don't properly use a ‘super’ key―while the ‘Win’ key is sitting there uselessly.

>These keys are great to use on Mac

The use of the super key on Mac is horrible. It should sit there uselessly, until I tell it to do otherwise. On Mac, here are no safe hotkeys to bind anything to. On Linux, my WM configuration has a ton of actions bound to the super key, and I never have to worry that it will conflict with another application.

hjk05|6 years ago

I’d love to hear your take on the nonsensical shape and staggered key layout. Do you have suggestions for keyboards that do away with this?

I have myself been looking at https://ergodox-ez.com/ but I’d love to hear of alternatives, especially if you have first hand experience on them.

zeptomu|6 years ago

> The actual issue is that Windows and Linux don't properly use a ‘super’ key―while the ‘Win’ key is sitting there uselessly.

For me (Gnome) the super-key shows an overview of my windows and let's me enter a command which is fairly convenient.

TeMPOraL|6 years ago

This is a problem. The browser wants to be a computing platform, so it's injecting itself between the actual OS and the software you'd like to run. But it's still an userland program, so it uses regular keyboard shortcuts. Shortcuts the software you'd like to run needs as well.

I had a similar problems with Emacs in the browser (I stumbled upon it a long time ago). The keys I needed the most were also the keys intercepted by the browser.