[simondedalus]

it is of course just a matter of time for either of the companies you mentioned to "be hacked" (obviously it's happened countless times with Microsoft, both the OS and their cloud services like O365, and there was a recent high profile revelation that the google apps suite APIs exposed user info to developers). the difference is incident response and layered security.

as long as you're using software somewhere in the stack that isn't like maturity level 5, AND you don't have constant audits looking for novel attacks on working-as-intended systems, you're pretty much guaranteed to inherit (or create) a vulnerability at some point, and if you're important enough it will get exploited. the reason that doesn't mean we should start modeling computer systems as "living organisms that eventually get old and die" and should keep modeling security like war is that when you get hit, you can respond. all the layers matter, and insofar as Microsoft or Google do it right, they primarily do it right by having a mature process for monitoring, patching, isolating, etc.

as for docker hub though, yeah i'm totally with you. i'm just saying we shouldn't overestimate the preventive capacity of anyone, honestly. if you're doing anything important over the internet at all, you're making some compromises somewhere.

here are 2 links to things i handwaved at above, for example's sake:

https://www.wired.com/story/microsoft-email-hack-outlook-hot...

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kateoflahertyuk/2018/10/09/goog...