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fabricexpert | 6 years ago

Self incrimination is not the same as a false accusation.

Imagine if the person raped committed a different crime, unrelated to the rape, for which there was evidence of that on their phone.

In order to report the rape, they have to self incriminate themself for that crime as well? In this scenario any drug user, prostitute or other criminal has no protection from the law against being raped.

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coherentpony|6 years ago

Or even more simply, even if there's no "other" crime: it's my personal data. I have a right to privacy.

ryanm101|6 years ago

You also have an obligation to help the police solve the crime you reported by providing all and any relevant information.

The issue is that people don't always know what information is relevant / they think stuff is too minor to mention.

You wouldn't go to a doctors appointment and then say my body is private you cant examine me and expect them to go off just the info you provide. If the doctor asks to stick his finger up your rear to check your prostate you don't say er no thanks that's too private. You assume he has a good medical reason that he wants to do that and you let him confirm that you are healthy.

ryanm101|6 years ago

Isn't that the same though as if you have ill gotten funds / drugs, I steal them from you but you cant report that. I've still committed a crime against you but you cant report it due to the fact you committed a crime in the first place.

Kinda hard to feel sorry for a criminal being unable to report a crime.....

kennywinker|6 years ago

I don’t even know where to start.

You don’t feel sympathy for sex workers, who in many places are unable to report being assaulted?

Your example is having something you stole stolen from you. That’s not the same as doing something illegal, and having a completely different crime done to you. “I was jaywalking, and someone robbed me when i arrived on the other side of the street”. I can’t report it because I would have to explain why I was in the middle of the street without having walked past the shops on that side.

throw_political|6 years ago

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swombat|6 years ago

Way to go throwing epithets around.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_Kin...

> In Great Britain (England, Wales and Scotland), prostitution itself (the exchange of sexual services for money) is legal,[2] but a number of related activities, including soliciting in a public place, kerb crawling, owning or managing a brothel, pimping and pandering, are crimes. In Northern Ireland, which previously had similar laws, paying for sex became illegal from 1 June 2015.[3] Laws are not always strictly enforced, and there are reports of police forces turning a blind eye to brothels.[4] Many brothels in cities such as Manchester, London and Cardiff operate under the name "massage parlours".

A lot of stuff around prostitution that should be legal isn't.

coldtea|6 years ago

>Imagine if the person raped committed a different crime, unrelated to the rape, for which there was evidence of that on their phone.

Yeah, so a second crime was solved too. That's bad because?

fabricexpert|6 years ago

But that won't happen. If you have evidence on your phone of a crime you committed you're not going to give the phone to the police to look at. Therefor we end up with no crimes solved instead of one. Ontop of that, because everyone knows that a criminal can no longer report a rape, there's a carte blanche to rape anyone who falls into that category without consequence.