Is this a bribe? A bug bounty is a standard program for lots of companies, we don't consider the bounty a bribe. I mean, you could bribe someone in this way but there needs to be some nefarious intent going on - just giving them money to delay announcement until you've fixed the bug seems like a fairly pure motive to me.
They offered them a lower bug bounty reward with a big "gift" on the side. This would mean Intel gets to report the bug as lower severity. And presumably the extra "gift" money, which raises the total paid above the max bounty they normally offer by $20,000, had some strings attached.
I've already read articles that some of the vulnerabilities were found more than a year ago. And as others reported similar exploits, they grouped them all together into 2 "teams" and made the PR release all at once. The only reason we're hearing anything now, is that I heard the team who found the first bug threatened to leak since it had been a whole year. The first bug was discovered a year and three days ago. If they didn't threaten to leak, god knows how long Intel would have spent collecting bugs.
This CPU "bug" is actually 4 different CVE's, some quite different from the others, and presumably discovered at various times over the past year.
Just scummy as hell by Intel. They #1 forced a bunch of different researchers who found different bugs to split the bounty, #2 aggregated the bugs rolling in for more than a year to minimize impact. That's on top of the attempted bribery and rumors that the microcode + patches do not fully mitigate leaks between hyper threads.
And for the argument that they didn't have enough time at one year... They had enough time to fix and release new silicon! Intel states that chips made in the last month are fixed at a hardware level. It's orders of magnitude harder to ship silicon than software, so my assumption is that the fixes for existing chips have been ready for a while. They've just been sitting, waiting
Tomorrow's story: "Intel execs discovered wiping their ass with retail CPUs before packaging. Company defends measure as 'giving things a personal touch'. Stock prices rise."
Traster|6 years ago
nullwasamistake|6 years ago
I've already read articles that some of the vulnerabilities were found more than a year ago. And as others reported similar exploits, they grouped them all together into 2 "teams" and made the PR release all at once. The only reason we're hearing anything now, is that I heard the team who found the first bug threatened to leak since it had been a whole year. The first bug was discovered a year and three days ago. If they didn't threaten to leak, god knows how long Intel would have spent collecting bugs.
This CPU "bug" is actually 4 different CVE's, some quite different from the others, and presumably discovered at various times over the past year.
Just scummy as hell by Intel. They #1 forced a bunch of different researchers who found different bugs to split the bounty, #2 aggregated the bugs rolling in for more than a year to minimize impact. That's on top of the attempted bribery and rumors that the microcode + patches do not fully mitigate leaks between hyper threads.
And for the argument that they didn't have enough time at one year... They had enough time to fix and release new silicon! Intel states that chips made in the last month are fixed at a hardware level. It's orders of magnitude harder to ship silicon than software, so my assumption is that the fixes for existing chips have been ready for a while. They've just been sitting, waiting
krageon|6 years ago
> giving them money to delay announcement until you've fixed the bug
And this is why it is a bribe. Sure, maybe you feel this isn't ethically problematic in which case you could just take it.
tinus_hn|6 years ago
h2odragon|6 years ago