Another perspective on this is as western malfeasance in economic and actual warfare in the east, which we are now starting to pay for as China ignores our IP and denies us the ability to compete in their market.
Weird to post this youtube video embedded on kottke as if it was a post from kottke, here's the original TedEd video on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaLvVc1sS20
I have seen such vessels in roadside tea shops in India, but probably did not know at the time that they were samovars or were similar to them. I've only read about samovars in Russian novels by authors like Gorki, Chekhov and others.
One of the interesting facts I read about was the invention of chai tea (spiced tea) for the Indian market. Which was invented by the British as a way to convince the Indians to drink tea.
Traditionally Indians had drunk spiced coffee, not tea and it took a long time to force them off of it!
For the record, "chai" is just the word for tea; spices are not implied. It does not seem to have been introduced by the British, who knew it as "cha" very early and "tea" for most of their tea-relevant history; the "chai" form comes from Persia.
Well, it didn't work closer to the places where coffee is grown in India. ;)
Coffee is still the default choice in those parts in most cases, though it's a rather different form usually made with Robusta beans (as well as Arabica) and chicory.
As others have said here, the name of regular tea (without spices, etc.) in India is not "chai tea" but just "chai" (in Hindi). "Chai tea" would be like saying "tea tea" (although in two different languages (Hindi and English) in the same two-word phrase), so is redundant. I've had American friends and colleagues who made the same mistake.
From Google Translate (and listen to the sounds via the speaker button - when available):
Depending on which part of India you are from tea preparation can vary. For instance in Bengal, Darjeeling Tea and its variants are not spiced. One thing this video does is give a two sided view of tea history talking about China and England as the two main countries of interest. Tea itself would have been known in the middle east much earlier than when the British brought it over. Although the cultivation outside China probably was a largely British push.
Sometimes I wonder how the Chinese felt about the blatant IP theft by the British ages ago. I however am grateful for the fact that tea became more accessible due to that. We wouldn't have Assam and Darjeeling otherwise.
Interesting. When does water turn from liquid to beverage? Is it when I pour it in a drinking glass? Because I guess when it is used to flush the toilet it is not a beverage?
[+] [-] themagician|6 years ago|reply
> Tea is the coolest thing in human history.
> Grows in China, only really exported to Japan.
> 1500s, some dues bring it to Europe.
> Britain goes fucking nuts for it.
> Start naval empire for the sole purposes of buying tea.
> Britain buys all the tea in China for all it’s silver bullion, utterly bankrupting itself.
> Britain gets China addicted to opium to balance debt. Ha.
> China gets pissed, colossal war ensues.
> Meanwhile Brits decide they want sugar in their tea, basically kick start the slave trade in earnest.
> Stick sugar plantations all over Americas.
> Kill half of the people in Africa just to grow that sweet, sweet sugar.
> Blitz through India, be like, “Grow tea or everyone dies.”
> okay.jpg
> China’s fucked, broke from opium wars, monopoly on tea gone,
> Africa’s fucked, millions dead, millions in chains halfway around the world.
> The Americas rolling in wealth because of slavery and plantations.
> Everyone and their mum now drinks tea, Brtis make mad bank.
> Wake up to drink sweet brew every morning, imagine the untold amount of violence that went into that cup.
[+] [-] umvi|6 years ago|reply
I feel like there was a missed opportunity to transition to Boston Tea Party and American Revolution
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Lol
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[+] [-] vram22|6 years ago|reply
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samovar
From the above article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:A_Samovar_at_a_Kerala-sty...
I have seen such vessels in roadside tea shops in India, but probably did not know at the time that they were samovars or were similar to them. I've only read about samovars in Russian novels by authors like Gorki, Chekhov and others.
[+] [-] Synaesthesia|6 years ago|reply
Traditionally Indians had drunk spiced coffee, not tea and it took a long time to force them off of it!
[+] [-] thaumasiotes|6 years ago|reply
For the record, "chai" is just the word for tea; spices are not implied. It does not seem to have been introduced by the British, who knew it as "cha" very early and "tea" for most of their tea-relevant history; the "chai" form comes from Persia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea#Etymology
But the British did give it a promotional campaign, during which they fought against the native tendency to add spices:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masala_chai#History
[+] [-] vinay427|6 years ago|reply
Coffee is still the default choice in those parts in most cases, though it's a rather different form usually made with Robusta beans (as well as Arabica) and chicory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_filter_coffee
[+] [-] vram22|6 years ago|reply
From Google Translate (and listen to the sounds via the speaker button - when available):
Hindi:
https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&t...
Marathi:
https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&t...
Tamil (but I've never heard anyone call it that, may be the formal name, I've always heard it called "tea" (as in English) in Tamil:
https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&t...
Gujarati:
https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&t...
Malayalam:
https://translate.google.com/#view=home&op=translate&sl=en&t...
and so on ...
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The thing is that they remember all those things while people in the West are oblivious to them.
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http://www.haleysdailyblog.com/9-most-consumed-beverages-aro...
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