[hoopism]

Anyone going to dealerships in 2019 is already losing. I made that mistake recently with my wife's car. We went into dealer and I talked to manager. We knew exact model and color we wanted and told him we were there to see it in person and then would get quotes from area dealers... Because he was nice I told him to just give me his absolute best price then and we'd consider it... it was few grand more than I knew I could get so I went the email/quote route. 2 weeks later he won the pricing quote and was 6 grand lower than what he said was his lowest in the showroom. Only shop via email. Ever.

[legohead]

Reminds me when I bought my second car. I wanted to test drive 2 different cars at a couple dealerships. I called ahead to the first one and asked if the model I wanted was available. They said yes, and asked what I wanted to pay for it. I totally low-balled them because I didn't care at this point. When I got there they gave me the price I offered. Never test drove the second car...