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low_poly_shiba | 6 years ago

sure and there's other tamer lefttube people like Jenny Nicholson, Lindsay Ellis, etc.

I was comparing hard to hard. "Hard left" youtube seem to be great people, whereas "hard right" youtube is utter trash.

One has to stretch "both sides are bad" to great extremes to pretend that the problem is intractable.

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coldtea|6 years ago

>I was comparing hard to hard. "Hard left" youtube seem to be great people, whereas "hard right" youtube is utter trash.

Or you know, that's a version of "everyone I agree with is good, everyone I disagree with is Hitler".

low_poly_shiba|6 years ago

who's your go-to left equivalent of Jordan Peterson or PrisonPaul or Crowder?

site doesn't let me reply but I can't believe you're seriously saying Chomsky and Zizek are the left equivalents of Crowder and Prisonpaul, lol

Let's narrow it down to those two. Who's the left Crowder/Prisonpaul if not Hbomb? And if it's Hbomb, how can you deny he's better than those two?

exactlywthwas|6 years ago

both sides are bad, the US president said so

ralusek|6 years ago

I don't think most of the people I listed are tame, I think they're "hard liberal" or "hard libertarian." One of the problems is that there are really 3 camps in most western countries at this point. There is

1.) the authoritarian left, which prioritizes racial and gendered identity, collectivism, equity, all facilitated by the state.

2.) the anti-authoritarian liberal, which prioritizes individual liberty, universality under the law, accountability and self-determination.

3.) the authoritarian right, which prioritizes tradition and national identity.

An extreme person in any of these camps would not result in "great people." I do not think that the left's collectivization of society along racial and gendered lines is "great." I do not think the left's conviction in its moral superiority and subsequent willingness to censor and deplatform is "great." I do not think that the left's disassociation of merit and value in pursuit of arbitrary equity is "great." These are very dangerous things. Radical leftism is responsible for tens of millions of deaths.

low_poly_shiba|6 years ago

I suppose your own bias aside, these roughly map to

- AOC/Sanders

- Obama/Clinton

- Bush/Trump

? I'm not american but it's no contest I'm "authoritarian left", I guess. If "universal health care" is authoritarian, sign me up.